Predator hunter killed in Lunenburg County Va. Monday night

I want to see someone get a 3-1/2" shell in a 3" chamber. I've got about 6 12ga shotguns at home and I'd bet my wallet that there isn't a human alive who can get a 3-1/2" shell into a 3" chamber and get it into any configuration where the firing pin can be engaged.

But, you've probably got the police report right? All shootings have a police report. Is that what the report says happened?
 
Hecouldgoalltheway said:
I want to see someone get a 3-1/2" shell in a 3" chamber. I've got about 6 12ga shotguns at home and I'd bet my wallet that there isn't a human alive who can get a 3-1/2" shell into a 3" chamber and get it into any configuration where the firing pin can be engaged.

But, you've probably got the police report right? All shootings have a police report. Is that what the report says happened?
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Things just got real...lol.

Seriously guys... let's not bicker among ourselves.

A horrible thing has happened... let's not make it worse by bantering back and forth.
 
Im here for condolences and to try discuss possible safety measures, if you want what proof I have, PM me. I dont own a thermal, it would be nice to know if there are "invisible" strobes or indicators a hunter could wear to stand out to thermal users. I know IR strobes and other devices exist but no one is using NVG or thermal around here.

I am curious about this unfortunate incident along with any others similar, would a rifle proof vest have helped?
 
Hecouldgoalltheway said:
I want to see someone get a 3-1/2" shell in a 3" chamber. I've got about 6 12ga shotguns at home and I'd bet my wallet that there isn't a human alive who can get a 3-1/2" shell into a 3" chamber and get it into any configuration where the firing pin can be engaged.

But, you've probably got the police report right? All shootings have a police report. Is that what the report says happened?
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3" chamber is 3.100".
Max length for 3.5" crimped shell is 3.150.

I bet they fit.
 
Bowhntr6pt said:
Things just got real...lol.

Seriously guys... let's not bicker among ourselves.

A horrible thing has happened... let's not make it worse by bantering back and forth.
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Dont ruin a good thing here, depending on how much money is in his wallet we may get some free ammo here
 
Hard Tail, I am sorry to hear about the loss of your cousin, from the looks, a man who will never be replaced in your and his friend's circle.
We should all know about target identification and safe shooting, but I agree with Rock Knocker, maybe turn this thread into a platform
in ways to hunt defensively so we are not on the receiving end of such a thing.
I hunt at night because the maniacs in my home area shoot first and ask questions later, that is if some are sober, since I only hunt farms,
I have taken to being close to my truck, so as to signal I am out there, I also like elevation so I can scan with my hand held for cows, night
dog walkers, deer and other nighttime animals. I find that all farms have junk tractors, loaders, and old trucks all over the place, and have never
found the presence of my truck to be a deterrent, I have even driven out into the middle of a field and sat next to my truck so I would not be skylined,
and so I could get a safer vantage point to shoot with an adequate back stop. Let's hear some ideas.
 
Several years ago I dabbled with tin foil hats, even bought a reflective safety blanket to test. I cant remember if it showed up like tin foil. I had my kids walk around while I watched the in thermal etc. Refletive strip on cuffs or hats etc show up with an IR and NV but no dice on thermal obviously. The tin foil thing works though as long as people realize its gonna show up cold and don't get confused. Just need an actual usable hat or vest etc and there would have to be law require wearing one or most guy's wouldnt wear one. Not to mention who wants more law.....pita I know but it is possibly a somewhat sensible idea.
 
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Personally I want to see ears, tail and some shading before I pull the trigger. Coon, possum and deer aren't on the list and definately not a person. Probably comes back from being a bow hunter & muzzleloader for the last 48 years and not wanting to educate coyotes. That's just me though. To bad the senseless mistake happened.
 
some reports the shot was 400 to 450 yards, thinking it was a bobcat. in my opinion the person doing the shooting shot at a thermal "blob"

this is my partner at 400 or so yards away retrieving a coyote, the image is "black hot" he is the tall dark image, the coyote is the small dark spot

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this is him bending over to pick up the coyote, images were taken with a pulsar axion xq38 scanner with a 384 core (not a 640)

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i am at a loss, Prayers and condolences for the family and friends of Mr. Gaulding
 
BRoque, I am very sorry for the senseless loss of your brother. It is not something that should ever have happened. There is just no excuse. 100% positive target identification is simply demanded in every situation where a trigger is pulled. Thermal hunting at night brings an extra element of identification, which should also carry an extra amount of certainty and caution. The ranges stated are what I would consider extreme at night with thermal optics. Even at those ranges, I feel it would be hard to mistake a human figure for a bobcat or coyote. Regardless, in my opinion, the shooter in this instance is 100% at fault for this tragedy. No excuses!

Your brother sounds like an incredible man, I am sincerely sorry for your loss. Prayers for you and your family. 🙏
 
Im not a thermal hunter, does anyone have a pic of a hunting buddy laying or sitting down at similar ranges?
 


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