Hunting coyotes with hounds

Hecouldgoalltheway said:
There is a thing to be leery of. Some men think the world should be without conflict. They are idealists. Debate is the chess board by which intellectual disagreements (some less intellectual than others) are resolved. It used to be an art form, but digital communication has ruined the perceived need. Now we have a bunch of folks who think we should all just agree about everything or keep quiet. They want to live in an echo chamber where everyone agrees about everything, and if that can't be done, we pretend that it doesn't matter. Well, it matters. Our country wasn't founded by men who refused to engage in conflict or debate. Soft men almost cost us this country. Soft men who surrendered morality for peace put us in this position. Soft men should be avoided.
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Bravo...
 
Hecouldgoalltheway said:
There is a thing to be leery of. Some men think the world should be without conflict. They are idealists. Debate is the chess board by which intellectual disagreements (some less intellectual than others) are resolved. It used to be an art form, but digital communication has ruined the perceived need. Now we have a bunch of folks who think we should all just agree about everything or keep quiet. They want to live in an echo chamber where everyone agrees about everything, and if that can't be done, we pretend that it doesn't matter. Well, it matters. Our country wasn't founded by men who refused to engage in conflict or debate. Soft men almost cost us this country. Soft men who surrendered morality for peace put us in this position. Soft men should be avoided.
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Are you serious????

The problem here is a small group of kids making bully like comments and ganging up on others, you have said nothing useful. That isnt tough, you just keep running your mouth. Mainstream sceptics like you were queen loving loyalists, badass radicals with wild ideas made this incredible country!
 
Rock Knocker said:
Are you serious????

The problem here is a small group of kids making bully like comments and ganging up on others, you have said nothing useful. That isnt tough, you just keep running your mouth. Mainstream sceptics like you were queen loving loyalists, badass radicals with wild ideas made this incredible country!
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Which queen was that?

When america fought for its independence, there was no queen, nor was there a ruling queen a hundred years either side of that if my memory serves.

I wish you had the mental aptitude to realize how calling someone a "skeptic" and then a "queen loving loyalist" in the same sentence is the definition of an oxymoron.


There is a famous quote attributed to several famous people, so I don't know who actually said it, but it's relevant:

"It's better to keep one's mouth closed and be thought an idiot than to open it and prove it.".
 
DAA said:
I'm in that small group too. Leonard banned me as well. And I'm in an even smaller group of banned that have not been granted reprieve.

But, myself, I'm philosophically opposed to banning, on GP. Sometimes, it just needs to happen. But it takes a lot,; more than I have experienced so far as an Admin on this site, to get me to vote for banning.

That said... Having three user names, is, in fact, a violation of TOS here. And clear cut grounds for banning. And I know for a fact it is true in this case. Still, I'm just not comfortable with banning. Having been banned from the old Coyote Gods, Leonard's board, and, for a time, even here. I think all three were total BS. So, it takes a heckuva lot, a real whole heckuva lot, to get me onboard with banning anyone.

I prefer to just let the nutcases be their own nutcase self's. The Members are more than smart enough to see through the BS on their own. They don't need us Admin's making it official. That's just my take, of course. And I've always been on the losing side of that when it comes to a vote.

- DAA
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I've explained to another administrator. For me having HAD those accounts. I've moved 2x since my initial sign up on here. I told that administrator that I ONLY have this account now. So as far as those other 2 accounts. I told him he can delete them.
 
Hecouldgoalltheway said:
Which queen was that?

When america fought for its independence, there was no queen, nor was there a ruling queen a hundred years either side of that if my memory serves.

I wish you had the mental aptitude to realize how calling someone a "skeptic" and then a "queen loving loyalist" in the same sentence is the definition of an oxymoron.


There is a famous quote attributed to several famous people, so I don't know who actually said it, but it's relevant:

"It's better to keep one's mouth closed and be thought an idiot than to open it and prove it.".
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Jeez, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, the queen would have been tollerable, I guess you would have been bending over to the king then.....
 
Rock Knocker said:
Jeez, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, I guess you would have been bending over to the king then.....
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Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt. I spent about 2 months shy of 12 years in the US Army, and not in some remf support role either. I've put my butt on the line for my ideas about what America is. You seem to be about as good at gaugeing character as you are at determining cheap sloppy AI Bigfoot fakes from pre-ai sloppy cheap Bigfoot fakes.
 
medic joe said:
I've explained to another administrator. For me having HAD those accounts. I've moved 2x since my initial sign up on here. I told that administrator that I ONLY have this account now. So as far as those other 2 accounts. I told him he can delete them.
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There are some on here. Who no doubt are envious of my many yrs hunting predators. It's not like I know it all or have seen it all. I would NEVER propose such a thing. But I know & have seen enough to get me by as for the Red Fox & coyotes. Some on here, have anointed themselves as the sheriff. So they deem themselves as having the right. To hammer on another member. Whom they disagree with, or just don't like period. Disagree with me fine. Try & make me less of a hunter than I'm. Is nothing but bullying BS. In the real world in person. A thug would not stand long with me. IF...he had the notion or desire. Of making me his victim in person. All I see other than the normal disagreeing(which is fine). I experience a verbal onslaught of verbal abuse, degrading by a group of members. Whose MAIN intent. Is to hammer away on me. To mock & belittle me(which doesn't work by the way) No matter what.
 
GC said:
So this thread isn't about hunting coyotes with dogs at all. It's Joe looking for a fresh place to spew his BS. Old Joe is trying to duck into a new room full of the uninitiated to attempt to get some attention from those who aren't on to him yet. This post isn't about hunting at all, it is spamming the forum from an attention whore wanna-be expert.
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Re-read my initial post. The large canines I remarked about above. Have NOTHING to do. With past disagreements on this site. Yet here you are, twisting & contorting my post. By the way, what all have you actually seen in that thick jungle you hunt?
 
I said I was done, and here you are stirring the chit. Three things, 1) Nobody is jealous of you, 2) Nobody is afraid of you, 3) You aren't prepared to make an intelligent argument or discussion. You should stop.

Let it be and I'm done.
 
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GC said:
I said I was done, and here you are stirring the chit. Three things, 1) Nobody is jealous of you, 2) Nobody is afraid of you, 3) You aren't prepared to make an intelligent argument or discussion. You should stop.

Let it be and I'm done.
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Good! Good riddance to you!
 
Back to my post...

In my state On rare occasion wolves pass through. None of them have formed a wolf pack. And resided here as far as I know. Most of those wolves are alone. However I have heard of a single pair being sighted. Many years ago in the county I was born in.

Winter circa; 1971. We formed a group of our coyote hunting houndsman friends. Who hunted with trail hounds, greyhounds & staghounds/hair dogs. We roamed the gravel roads. As we looked for coyotes & or a fresh track. One guy in our group. Called on his cb radio. Where a coyote crossed the road in front of him. So we all meet at that coyote crossing & put 2 trail hounds on that track. They sounded off & took off back into this section. That section was roughly 3x5 miles. It was steep rolling hills with some heavy & sparse oak timber.

I think we had 4 or 5 vehicles that day. We keep circling that section looking for the "push out". So we could dump the sighthounds on that coyote. I was riding shotgun with an older houndsman friend of ours. After a while, we parked on a high open rolling hill area. So we could see deep back into that land mass. We sat there & waited & waited. As we scanned back into that section with our binocs. After some time. We seen 3 distant canines working their way our direction. Two of those canines were very dark colored, one of an off white color.

The two hounds we set on that hot coyote track. The largest dog was a male Black & Tan. He was all black mostly. Massive in size & weighed 110 lbs. Which is on the large size for a Black & Tan. He was an excellent coyote hound & hardcore in a fight. The second hound was an off white Walker hound. I would guess he was around 60 lbs or so. Also a very tough coyote dog.

Anyway we lost sight of them as they worked their way towards us. The ground was covered in a deep powdery fresh snow around 10" deep. Suddenly there they were running a ridgeline less than 1/4 mile away. We put the binocs on them as we wondered what the other dark canine was? It was a very large salt & pepper colored wolf. The B&T was so close on the wolf's heels. It was trying to grab the end of the wolfs tail. What an awesome & rare sight. To see a wolf.

Our older friend. He said, something to the effect. "We need to quickly grab our guns. And get out there quickly to help those hounds. Or that wolf will probably kill them!" So we got our guns & walked as quick as we could across two ravines separating that ridgeline & where we parked. I think it took us close to 1/2 hr. Before we reached that ridgeline. Because at the bottom of those two ravines. The snow was around waist deep.

Anyway now we were on the open hillside as we slowly slogged our way to the top of the ridge. As we neared the ridge. Here came both hounds slowly slogging their way towards us. We all met on the top of that ridge. The hounds were exhausted. Both hounds, head, neck & chests. Were coated in blood. Mostly theirs? it appeared. We checked them for active bleeding rips/puncture wounds. Both hounds had canine fang puncture wounds. Where that wolf at 1x in the fight. Had those dogs head's in it's mouth. They both had puncture wounds on their muzzles, head & neck areas. We packed snow into those wounds trying to stop the bleeding. After that we walked over the ridge top. Just over the ridge top we seen where all 3 of them battled. That fight area had a lot of blood on the snow. The wolf was gone & we never seen it again.
 
DAA said:
I'm in that small group too. Leonard banned me as well. And I'm in an even smaller group of banned that have not been granted reprieve.
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GC said:
I think you have the distinction of being one of a very small handful of knuckleheads that Leonard banned from his website.
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Lenny lowered the ban hammer on me years ago. Don't even remember why. lol... HM is the only board I know of that let that dumbass TA17rem back in. One of Lenny's biggest mistakes!
 
Doesn't anyone know, the only reason it keeps on is because you're feeding into it. Ignore it, and boredom will get the better of him and eventually he'll find elsewhere to troll. No sense in trying to converse or debate with someone who doesn't want to in the first place. Reckon he's only here to get the reactions y'all are giving him.
 
I find that amusing. I share my experiences & opinions. Whether anyone agrees or not. Am I looking for a debate? h*ll no. I could care less what any porch yapper has to say. Like most on here. I have my OWN views, based on my own experiences. To which any & all said porch yapper(s). Can pound sand.
 
I think that's the point that you're missing:

Nobody wants to hear your droning stories and lofty unscientific suppositions. I know I shouldn't be responding to you again, but maybe you actually don't know. You just declared that you don't want to debate, because well, you already know everything. That's probably the only honest statement you've ever made here.
 
Hecouldgoalltheway said:
I think that's the point that you're missing:

Nobody wants to hear your droning stories and lofty unscientific suppositions. I know I shouldn't be responding to you again, but maybe you actually don't know. You just declared that you don't want to debate, because well, you already know everything. That's probably the only honest statement you've ever made here.
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BULLARKY! What debate? When you & a handful of other know it alls. Stoop below grade. TRYING to diminish another hunter's experiences & views. Debate my a**! Childish droning & hammering, name calling. That is what bullying yappers spew forth!
 
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