Here more education for you guys. Coyotes specifically, often prefer to be elevated. So they can have a view to their down wind areas. Thus they often will bed down right below a ridgeline or about 1/2 down a hillside.
Hunting coyotes with hounds
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IF.. by chance you do not believe this ^^^^. Then you need more field time. That is a fact.
GC
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Stay on topic or spew more BS. This thread is about hound hunting. I asked honest questions. A few more, how did you guys communicate, CB radio? Did those coyotes have known crossing places or did they bust across roads anywhere? The hound guys I know here say that the coyotes will often cross in a known place to them so they can get set up ahead and ready for a shot. I honestly don't know if they have kill dogs or rely on shooting the coyote themselves. You mentioned "staghound" and "greyhound", are those different breeds and what is the basic difference between them? Pictures are always appreciated and help validate your point and experience.
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GC
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In open flat terrain. In other areas and situations that is completely wrong. But let's stick to what you know and the subject at hand, which in this case is open country hound hunting.
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We've recently experienced a few threads, such as this one, which have gone off the rails and other threads bemoaning the lack of participation, especially from new members, as well. Perhaps there is a link between the two? Here's a couple of suggestions that might help solve both problems.
When we post of an experience or opinion, we must realize that not all others have had the same experience(s) and that some who have had that experience may come away with an all together different opinion as to the cause/results of, or how to handle that experience. Unfortunately some express those differences in a manner that may come across as confrontational. 99% of the time those replies, which are not in agreement with ours, are not intended to belittle OP's ideas or opinions, they are just expressing a different take on the matter.
We must not allow a difference in opinion to get under our skin. Each of us can come to a different conclusion based on our own past experiences. No one enjoys reading pages of back and forth between two or more members which can, and does usually result in the thread going off the rails if allowed to fester. I suspect that more than a few new members reading such may decide that PM is not the place they want to spend leisure hours.
This is what we must all work to avoid at all costs if we wish to grow the forum.
My suggestion (to us all) is when making, or replying to a post, take a moment to re-read that post before hitting the "Post" button. See if your wording needs a bit of tweaking to avoid possible misinterpretation by other parties that read your offering. It doesn't take but a second and can avoid lots of issues; it is also amazing the number of spelling errors and/or statements we can reword to better convey our thoughts.
More importantly, if you find a particular member with whom you constantly disagree, simply hit the ignore button and we will (all) find the forum a much more enjoyable experience, as is the intent of PM to begin with. Give it a try, I'm pretty sure everyone concerned will have a more enjoyable experience and continue to contribute/benefit from others valuable observations as well, while helping to make PM a better place to be.
(My brief recap, having had the benefit of Charm School many years ago.....in a nutshell, let's all learn to say, "Isn't that incredible?", rather than "Bull S***!")
When we post of an experience or opinion, we must realize that not all others have had the same experience(s) and that some who have had that experience may come away with an all together different opinion as to the cause/results of, or how to handle that experience. Unfortunately some express those differences in a manner that may come across as confrontational. 99% of the time those replies, which are not in agreement with ours, are not intended to belittle OP's ideas or opinions, they are just expressing a different take on the matter.
We must not allow a difference in opinion to get under our skin. Each of us can come to a different conclusion based on our own past experiences. No one enjoys reading pages of back and forth between two or more members which can, and does usually result in the thread going off the rails if allowed to fester. I suspect that more than a few new members reading such may decide that PM is not the place they want to spend leisure hours.
This is what we must all work to avoid at all costs if we wish to grow the forum.
My suggestion (to us all) is when making, or replying to a post, take a moment to re-read that post before hitting the "Post" button. See if your wording needs a bit of tweaking to avoid possible misinterpretation by other parties that read your offering. It doesn't take but a second and can avoid lots of issues; it is also amazing the number of spelling errors and/or statements we can reword to better convey our thoughts.
More importantly, if you find a particular member with whom you constantly disagree, simply hit the ignore button and we will (all) find the forum a much more enjoyable experience, as is the intent of PM to begin with. Give it a try, I'm pretty sure everyone concerned will have a more enjoyable experience and continue to contribute/benefit from others valuable observations as well, while helping to make PM a better place to be.
(My brief recap, having had the benefit of Charm School many years ago.....in a nutshell, let's all learn to say, "Isn't that incredible?", rather than "Bull S***!")
GC
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Clarence, you are a good man and I respect you. I will happily bow out with one last comment. There are no victims in, on, or around this thread. None of the participants in this thread are victims. Participating in this thread was a choice. Choosing to continue in the thread is a choice and choosing to continue name-calling, posturing, and spewing gack cancels out victim status. The same goes for anyone reading and following along. That was a choice also. It's simple, if you don't like it, don't click on it. You can't cling to every post like it is the next episode of the No. 1 ranked series on TV and then whine about how it diminishes your experience on Predatormasters. With that said I'm ready to move on along with everyone else.
Thank you, Gary.
To be clear, the purpose of my post was/is not to assign any blame or point any fingers. As stated, differences in opinions and debating one's beliefs is to be expected and are valuable to our learning process, so long as all parties respect others' right to their opinions and discourse reflects that respect. I believe in discourse but it should be a bit less aggressive in order to encourage especially new members to contribute their own experiences/opinions or ask questions without worrying about becoming embroiled in a shouting match, which always deteriorate into name calling. Thanks to all for helping in that endeavor.
To be clear, the purpose of my post was/is not to assign any blame or point any fingers. As stated, differences in opinions and debating one's beliefs is to be expected and are valuable to our learning process, so long as all parties respect others' right to their opinions and discourse reflects that respect. I believe in discourse but it should be a bit less aggressive in order to encourage especially new members to contribute their own experiences/opinions or ask questions without worrying about becoming embroiled in a shouting match, which always deteriorate into name calling. Thanks to all for helping in that endeavor.
doggin coyotes
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It ain't incredible if it's bulls**t.
.And I'm not going to pretend it is. sorry
I'll answer your questions. However, I will also say. I'm done arguing my points of view, based upon my own hunting experiences & what critters I've seen. We mainly road hunted rolling hills. We would spot a sleeper laying on those hills. We would then stalk in on that sleeper( or bedded coyote) Then once we would get close enough. We would release the dogs. We also carried fire arms. Rarely using them to finish off a coyote that was near dead but still alive. We would often stand on that (near death) coyotes neck to choke him out, versus shoot him. But we had done both. Our sight hounds, were greyhounds & greyhound hybrids. From a greyhound/scottish deer hound mix. And also greyhounds that were a hybrid mix with An irish wolfhound. Most coyotes would run directly away from the hounds. Otherwise angle towards where their old den site is. All of our sight hounds were kill dogs. Except one, she was a catch dog. We also used cb radios. A "staghound" is a crossbreed. Of a greyhound/wolfhound. Also referred to as a "hairy dog". As for pictures during my years of hound hunting. I never took any of the kills. However, the older men I hunted with. Took a few & they keep them. Two of those men have passed on & I don't have access to those pictures.
wolverines
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I got into coyote hunting by running with a group of houndsmen. Got my first coyote that way. This is probably my favorite picture of one I shot over 10 years ago from back when I used to go with the group every weekend.
These are Walkers. These 3 are all gone now, but these were some of the best we ever had. All cold trackers. No kill/catch dogs in our group. The program was get up before light and look for tracks. Start out by putting a couple dogs on the track later in the morning. If they jumped the coyote it was about 50/50 if it stayed in the section or straight lined out. We used Garmin gps trackers and 2 way radios. There’s a lot more involved, but that’s the short of it. I don’t go much anymore but they’re still getting after them.
These are Walkers. These 3 are all gone now, but these were some of the best we ever had. All cold trackers. No kill/catch dogs in our group. The program was get up before light and look for tracks. Start out by putting a couple dogs on the track later in the morning. If they jumped the coyote it was about 50/50 if it stayed in the section or straight lined out. We used Garmin gps trackers and 2 way radios. There’s a lot more involved, but that’s the short of it. I don’t go much anymore but they’re still getting after them.
Cool pic. I loved hound hunting. Some of the best days of my life. Hunting with family & friends who were into hound hunting. I got my 1st hound in 1968. She was a staghound/hairy dog. 3/4 Greyhound, 1/4 Scottish Deerhound. I named her Blue. I got her from an old farmer coyote houndsman. When she was around 6 months old I brought her along to get a taste of a coyote. Because she was young. I didn't let her join the kill. Until after the experienced dogs got the better of a coyote they had downed. She got in there & made a few bites on a couple of downed coyotes. We moved to another house & I could not keep her anymore. So I called that old guy. That he could have her back. So he came & picked her up. He told me he was going to use her as a breeding female & not for hunting. Because he said she was going to be a big dog. Plus he liked her looks. I kept in touch with him over the following years. He told me about one hunt. They ran a large coyote into a brush pile. It was a male. One hound after another they sent in their best dogs. To face that coyote that turned around in that brush pile, to fight. Each dog they sent in to face that coyote. Got it's face hammered by that coyote. They were about to give up. When my old friend said. I have a hairy female in my dog box. So he got Blue out of his dog box. She went into that brush pile & battled that coyote for quite awhile. Eventually getting a good hold on the side of that coyote's face. She drug that coyote out of that brush pile. Then all of the other hounds piled on him & killed him. I was proud of Blue after hearing about that hunt. Because she ended up being a true coyote hound. Versus, just being a breeder. Blue grew up to weigh around 80 lbs or so. Her exact weight I don't recall anymore.
Walkers make some of the BEST trail hounds. We had 2 walkers in our group. Both were relentless on a track & tough fighters.
wolverines
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Here’s another old pic I was able to find. This was an 8 dog day (one guy left early and took his coyote with him) that still stands today as our best. I was lucky enough to be on this hunt and did get 1 of the 8. I’ll never forget that hunt. Seemed like the dogs jumped a coyote or two in every pot hole they went in to.
Cool pic. Nice haul for 1 day of hunting.