Here comes WOW # 3.....
Now you're being insulting hicker.......
Not only to me, but to others here that don't agree with you. That's just plain rude, and this thread has done very well without that kind of garbage.
So here goes.....
If you want to make wild claims, and think that everyone will take your word for it, or should, just because you said so, then you must feel you're talking to other's whom you believe to be ignorant, which isn't very realistic or smart.
You have to remember that there's always someone out there (not necessarily me) that knows a little more, or knows a given area, a little better than you do.
And if you're openly disputed, then you offer proof (which you openly did), then you need to put up, or shut up. You offered photo's and proof, then backed away from both when called upon by sureshot56 and myself.....?????
Again you offered the proof, and when called on it, you got insulting.
Now my turn......
As far as 50+ grey's in one season around here, even trapping them, based on my local experience, I highly doubt it. If you want to make open slams at people's hunting styles, or lack of knowledge, then you're being rude and disrespectful of others.
By the way, anytime you'd like to pit your "superior skills and knowledge" against mine, I'll be more than willing to help you put your foot in your mouth.
Also, geographically, Wyoming Co. is far from "generally flat". Illinois and Indiana are generally flat, been there... There's lots of farmland in Wyoming Co., yes, but it's greatly rolling farmland, and far from what I'd call flat. The flattest part of the county is along the "Gainesville Flats" between Gainesville & Hermitage where it is the flattest area for the longest span of distance.
Woodlots in Wyoming, although there are some small ones, the majority aren't small.
And since you said you hunted Wethersfield, I guess you'd call that flat too, but since they put the new wind farm at that point, the highest point in the county, I guess they made a mistake huh ?
But considering your description of this county, and your vast knowledge of it, I guess my years as a Deputy patrolling it don't matter.
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Again....grey fox do not "stroll" in open fields and they're primary diet consists of fruit, berries, and insects,(they love frogs and snakes though) which is why they respond so well to pup distress sounds, very unlike the red fox.
Okay, they "tip toe" in open fields, how's that ? You mean to tell me that they never enter an open area....man, that's far fetched.
As far as differing diets, like I mentioned before, (since your examining fecal matter so much) all fox are creatures of opportunity, and will eating anything considered edible to them. Red's eat frogs and snakes as well......other than a possible difference in shape, scat contents aren't always a particularly good determining factor of species based on their "overall diet".
Also, what happens to your "grey fox diet theory" once the majority of the fruit & berry crop is greatly diminished from deer, birds, frost & snow, the frogs and snakes go into hibernation, and not to mention all of the insects around in the middle of winter ????????
Boy what do they have to eat now ? And usually the worst time of the year as well ? Hmmmmm, ponder that.
It'd be like trying to figure out which branch of the human race crapped on your front lawn based on whether they ate at Pizza Hut, or McDonalds.
C'mon man, go back to reading your wildlife books.....
Oh yeah, regarding den's and this time of year, geeze, you apparently missed the point entirely....
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BTW, fox don't den at any time of the year except durin the mating /rearing season.
What time of year is it now ?
Maybe a tad early, but they're paired up already. Could that mean that maybe they have den's already chosen, or should I tell them that you said it was too early yet ?
Oh, by the way, my "red fox claims" are backed up by "photos" and a story of the hunt......check back a ways in the posts you'll see it.
You brought the "pissing match" upon yourself....
Bob
