NYS Coyote Hunters

YetiHunter:

Nice!!!! And calling her into 7 yards is very cool. I'll also say I like the camo on your truck. I wonder if my wife would get upset if I put camo on my trim?

Thanks for sharing.
 
nice job on the grey fox yeti!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif nice bushy tail!! cool truck too! i don't know what the wife would say about camo on my minivan /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif its bad enough that i'm drivin' a minivan!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif like andrew said.....someday....

as far as getting out...i haven't. wanted to but things came up and the weather reports kinda screwed up things too. maybe this week...hopefully.
 
It could be worse... You could have a Kia that breaks down every time it's a nice night for hunting and gets stuck during every predator contest. The strange part is, I like the vehicle when it does break down!! I just can't afford a new car payment right now!
 
Well the first night out went way better than expected. My buddy and I snuck out to a not so great place to hunt Thursday night for an hour just to work out the gear bugs without ruining the great place that know there are dogs in. We realized that the rechargeable lights are terrible so we went to harbor freight and bought some of the 12v cig lighter powered ones and plugged them into our jump boxes for cars. I bought a piece of red lexan and made red lenses. After holding up a light for 30 min I had to make something so I took my tri-pod and mounted a piece of wood to it. The wood has a rifle rest in the center, my light mounted on the left and my camcorder mounted on the right. What a way to go, as I will explain bellow. By the way I will make them for a nominal fee anyone who would like one, e-mail the diameter you would like and your info. I had to buy an entire sheet so I have plenty.

Well it was Friday night about 7:00 and we hit our first set-up with nothing happening so we got dinner at the local restaurant and then hit the hopeful honey hole where we know there are bunches of fox. It was about 11:30 when we got set up and it started to rain and blow pretty good. As my buddy was setting the speaker in the field he hit the wounded rabbit button on the e-call by accident and much to our surprise it was followed by what I call yipping of a fox instantly. The fox stayed in the small patch of pines but in about 30 min I saw eyes of another animal at about 150 yrs. Due to the foggy rain I could not make out the target so I let it come in closer. My buddies were on the opposite side of the field and it was heading right to them however they could not see it in the dip so I kept the light on it and as I identified it and started to squeeze the trigger. Just as the gun was about send a .17mm projectile screaming toward the small spot between the foxes eyes the guys on the other side of the field move and it was gone. They are smart because the fox that came to the call was different than the one that was still in the pines yipping. Even though the kill was not made it was a rush getting something to hunt you and we learned a lot! While at the truck the yips kept going and going all around us so there will have to be another crack at it this week.

One other point that I notices is that as the fox was coming in the wind shifted so that it was going right to the fox and yet hid did not wind us. I can only attribute this to the scent lock suits and the fox urine. Scent suppression and cover scents worked for us! I guess this is more justification to get a new scent lock suit next year now that there is more hunting time to use them.

As far as the camera/light/gun rest, it was the best thing that I did. As I moved the gun to follow the fox in my scope the light followed along. If one was to hunt alone and doesn’t have the $ for a light force this is the way to go! I did not have the camcorder on because of the rain but I will get video as weather permits.

This one hunt has sparked the juices so today I went and talked to all the farmers in the area and 9/10 gave me permission to hunt both varmints and predators. One farmer even said please get all of the F*#$ing coyotes because they are getting bold around my farm hands when they are in the fields. There are a lot of them together so they are getting worried. I hunt two of these farms for deer however the others turned me down for deer because the family hunts the land during that season. Point being even if they won't let you deer hunt they might let you hunt predators.

Anyways I have rambled on and on so I will end this by thanking all who have contributed to this sight because it has helped greatly!

A now addicted predator hunter!!
Mike
 
Hey guys thanks for all the nice comments about the fox and my truck. sureshot56 asked what call I used for her, well my friend I wish I called her in but the truth of the matter is that I was sitting over a bait pile hopeing to snipe a coyote and she came into my lap so I figured why not and took her. As far as the truck, well my wife wasnt exactly that happy with me either as I bought it new and it had only 1,200 miles on it when I did the camo job. I am attacheing a few more pics for ya. enjoy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif

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YetiHunter:

Even though it's 'my' truck I think the wife would have a cow if I did a camo job to it. Although I must say yours is done very tastefully.

stangboss67:

It's funny, now hunters have to carry their cameras or video cams on a hunting trip now. Good thing the video cams are much smaller than the ones that came out years ago. I can still feel that bulky thing on my shoulder! You wouldn't have room to carry anything else...LOL!
 
Yeti....

Nice grey.....(I've been chomping at the bit to nail one for the last few years....haven't seen one, let alone shoot one)
Nice truck & nice camo touch.....I just wonder how many divorces have been generated by the addition of camo trim jobs anyway....LOL.

Michael Waddel's truck on his show "Road Trip" has caused me to consider camo-ing up my old 97' Tahoe. It's a green over gold paint job now, but I've done streetrod and sportbike graphic's jobs for years & years, along with the airbrushing & stuff, so I thought.....hmmmm, wonder if I could come up with a tastey camo job for my Tahoe.

Naturally the wife rolled her eyes......but she likes Mossy Oak stuff (buys me the accessories all the time), so who knows.

Stangboss.....
Sounds like at least you had some fun this weekend. I was bent over the fender of my boys car rebuilding the top end of his engine. I didn't miss much around here as it's been drizzly freezing rain all Sat., Sun. and now today. Dennis had all three days off and we could've headed out for some nice field fun, but even he called it off. Crappy.....real crappy.
I don't figure that too many critters would be out in this, but like I mentioned before, I'd rather hunt in rain than wind....but freezing rain gets dicey. Not only driving to and from, but also being in and around the woods....if you get my point.


Andy.....

As I mentioned, I just got done with my kids car and I had to pass up a few days of huntin' to get it done, but after I get a chance to drop a fox or two (coyote if I'm lucky) I guess I could be coerced into doing a little time on your KIA......LOL...

Well guys....since the crappy weather screwed up the huntin' this weekend....sounds like blowin' off a work day this week might be in order.
I'm retired so I can go whenever (rib-rib), and I like to entice those who still work to play hookey so I can get someone to chum along with.


Take care & stay safe,
Bob
 
The fox had no problems with the wind and rain I can tell you that! I think if we had more batteries for the lights we could have got the ones that were in the woods across from the truck to move but we will never know for sure. They sure were talking though!

I have a mossy oak cell phone but they don't make a camo kit for the Grand Prix yet. We have a beater 4x4 that looks like a rot box which it is that we could camo but there isn't enough fender or door left to stick much to. The drive train is mint and we don't have to worry about our wives complaining that we got it muddy or all she can smell is skunk or [beeep]. $500 well spent on something that goes where we need it to and a scratch from a tree or a dent is a new story!

Mike
 
Yeti, bait pile is a prime attractor. That "aroma" carries. Many times takes away from the "bipedal" scent. Prime place to hunker down --outstanding /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif Oh, Top notch truck /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif Wish I went with that instead of my F-250. So does my wife /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Regards, Mark.
 
Tried a couple of spots tonight. No luck. Spent an hour on the second stand. Did very very little calling. Wind was blowing like crazy! Cold as heck too!! You guys wishing and praying for winter should be in heaven now. LOL

Heard a bunch of coyotes howling across a couple of roads on another ridge. I think there were at least three seperate groups once they got started. I just sat there and listened. It went on longer than usual. Even though they were way off, the sound got my blood flowing. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Tomorrow's another day. Think I'll try a farm to the west of here. Going to finaly pull out the Sorels. They weigh a ton, but they do keep my feet warm. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Good Hunting.
 
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Nice grey.....(I've been chomping at the bit to nail one for the last few years....haven't seen one, let alone shoot one)




Where in Wyoming Co. are you??
I kill a good number of greys every year around the Strykersville, Curriers, Java, Bliss, Pike, Arcade area.

Very good population of greys in that area.
 
hickerx2,

Welcome partner....

I live about 1/2 mile north of the V/O Pike, and I've been here for 17yrs.
Not that it's the case all over or nothing, but in all that time, and with as much hunting as I do, I haven't seen one grey. And both my partner and I hunt "a lot" locally.
Not that they're not around, I don't doubt that, but they're very slim.
Although it's sporadic, I do hunt once in awhile over towards the Java area, but Bliss is just next door and encompasses part of my normal "local range".
About the only exciting variation of fox I've seen nearby, was the Silver Fox up near Hermitage that I mentioned here awhile ago. It was a first for me.

Although it's not all that far, I haven't hunted the very western fringes, like Currier's, Strykersville, or even Java and Arcade much, if at all. About the closest we have gotten to Arcade, as far as hunting is concerned, was maybe "Lost Nations" state lands. I know the area's very well as I used to patrol them when I was a Deputy.

If you're getting results on grey's in the area's you mentioned, then great. But, I can assure you wholeheartedly, that that's not the case over this way. Regarding the amount of time that I've put in over those years, you'd think that I'd have seen several by now, if that was the case.
Like I said, in all honesty, not a one.
I've called and killed a whole pile of red's, yes....but, I've never had a grey respond.

A very good possibility is that you're hunting in area's where there are congregated pocket's, or a more balanced amount of them. Not over here.
Even when I hunt in area's over near Retsof, where the fox populations are very, very high, I've still never seen one. For the most part, all red's.
About the only odd color phase I've shot were a couple of "lemmon yellow's" over there, but that's about it.

I'm not disputing your success at seeing or getting them, but I haven't seen what you're apparently seeing in some of those same areas, and I live and hunt here.

Take care,
Bob
 
Handgunr,

I'm betting that if you're calling that high a ratio of reds, you're not hunting in the right spots for greys. Generally speaking, they come from totally different areas. It seems very odd to me that anybody could do any amount of calling without calling an occasional grey fox. As a long-time fox trapper I agree though, you're right about some areas seemingly not having many greys.

Heck, 15-20 yrs ago, I was taking 50+ greys normally in your exact area. I have a few honey-spots around pike that seem to produce every single time I stop there. Do you know where the pike skating rink is? There is a spot within 3/4 mi from there that I killed 2 greys last month. I have some spots in Weathersfield that have produced a few greys this season as well. I've been having trouble with reds and yotes over your way. Your area seems to be overrun with houndsmen.

I grew up in Arcade, and my father was a Wyoming Co. Deputy sherriff and Arcade town cop. My grey fox hunting is about done for the year(hopefully) and with this cold snap, it's time to move on to calling reds and yotes during the daylight. As a matter of fact, I'm going out this afternoon and tonight. They must be hungry after this cold snap. I saw a pair of yotes 2 mornings ago, definitely paired. Seems early but I dunno.....

We'll have to hook up some time and I'll show ya how to get those greys coming in. IMO, grey fox are the easiest animal I've ever called to. They just come running with no regard to wind, gunshots, coyote howling, and even human voices sometimes. They don't like to come a long ways in the open like the others though. They're definitely fun. If coyotes were as bold as grey fox, there wouldn't be a pet left alive outside the village limits /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Good luck....it's prime-time now /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
hickerx2,

Well I probably know your father if that's the case.....I retired from WCSD. I started with them back in 1983 after moving here in 1981 from the Syracuse area.

I realize that the red's and grey's inhabit the same area's and that they'll readily respond to the same calls. There's no real difference there as far as calling them in. I think many on this thread, as well as others will tell you the same thing.
Over the many years that I've called, and hunted, this was what I've based my observations and experiences on. Especially in my own backyard. Other area's, maybe not so much.

As far as being easy to call in, based on what I've seen (or haven't) regarding grey's, I'd have to disagree with you on that one my friend.
I haven't had a whack at a grey, and if they're around, I'd have to say that they're either harder to call in than the red's by a long shot, or, they're just not around. My calling could always use a little improvement, but it's not bad at all, and if I haven't called one in by now.....they just aren't having any, or aren't around. I believe it's the latter of the two.
I do know that sometimes grey's will shoot up a tree, unlike the red's, to spot their quarry before bolting in. More cat than dog I'd guess. Even more so than the reds in most cases.

Without bragging, I can just about get red's to sit in my lap around here......and with many thanks to Mark (sureshot56) for tossing me a couple of Kerry Carver's calls, it's gotten much easier.
Any variety of fox, as well as coyotes are creatures of opportunity, and other than the coyote's elusive and cautious nature, the fox will toss caution to the wind and come screaming in most often.
Yet I've had some fox that will just trot in and almost not care if he gets there or not.
These are either well fed types, like one's I've seen mousing while they head in my direction, or they aren't aroused enough by the sounds of a particular call, or sequence.

Knowing fox like I do, virtually it's a flip of the coin as to which variety will respond if both grey's & red's inhabit the same area. One reason why I know their numbers are very short over here.
Yeah, I do know where the skating rink is....I live 1/2 mile from it, and I've never seen a grey anywhere nearby. Not strolling in the fields, not gnawing on a deer carcass, and definitely not coming in to a call. And that's putting in some heavy hunting over the past 17yrs. in just this area alone, not to mention many others I've hunted.

I can take you right to many fox den's locally, and not knowing what variety is living in them at that time, put you in a guaranteed spot where you'll get one, but I'd bet based on my experience in this area, it'll be a red 99% of the time.

I don't dispute the fact that you've gotten them over here, but when I mentioned your post to my old hunting buddy Dennis, who's got probably 12yrs. more hunting time on me, he smirked and nodded his head, saying (in his limited verbage) "show me".
We're always willing to be proven wrong.....but you gotta give credit, where credit is due.....after all the time we've put in, especially in this one area, you'd have to have seen one by now.

If you've got some magic there hicker, spread the love man....LOL.
We could use a little variety around here....

Take care,
Bob
 
Wow,

I certainly didn't mean to insult you. I meant no offense to you whatsoever. I was just looking to strike up a conversation with somebody that hunts in the same areas as I do.

I'm also not interested in an argument. I've been hunting fox myself for around 25 yrs, with a good portion of it in your immediate area. If you say there are no grey fox, then there are none I guess. I guess it wouldn't convince you to show you pictures or give you names of landowners where I've killed many greys over the years. After all, you so much as called me a liar when I said I just killed 2 greys in the same night very near the skating rink...lol, I wouldn't give you names anyway /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Anyway....good luck and give 'em hell
I'm headed out right now to try and kill some reds. It's 9 degrees, dark as hell, and still.

It was nice talkin to ya
 
Hickerx2, why don't you post your pics? I've been pred. calling for close to 39 years. I'm in Tioga CO. now for the last 7 years. Since greys are a rarity here too(as opposed to lot's of reds,) I, for one, would like to see the pics of you with all those greys. Mark.
 
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