hickerx2,
Well I probably know your father if that's the case.....I retired from WCSD. I started with them back in 1983 after moving here in 1981 from the Syracuse area.
I realize that the red's and grey's inhabit the same area's and that they'll readily respond to the same calls. There's no real difference there as far as calling them in. I think many on this thread, as well as others will tell you the same thing.
Over the many years that I've called, and hunted, this was what I've based my observations and experiences on. Especially in my own backyard. Other area's, maybe not so much.
As far as being easy to call in, based on what I've seen (or haven't) regarding grey's, I'd have to disagree with you on that one my friend.
I haven't had a whack at a grey, and if they're around, I'd have to say that they're either harder to call in than the red's by a long shot, or, they're just not around. My calling could always use a little improvement, but it's not bad at all, and if I haven't called one in by now.....they just aren't having any, or aren't around. I believe it's the latter of the two.
I do know that sometimes grey's will shoot up a tree, unlike the red's, to spot their quarry before bolting in. More cat than dog I'd guess. Even more so than the reds in most cases.
Without bragging, I can just about get red's to sit in my lap around here......and with many thanks to Mark (sureshot56) for tossing me a couple of Kerry Carver's calls, it's gotten much easier.
Any variety of fox, as well as coyotes are creatures of opportunity, and other than the coyote's elusive and cautious nature, the fox will toss caution to the wind and come screaming in most often.
Yet I've had some fox that will just trot in and almost not care if he gets there or not.
These are either well fed types, like one's I've seen mousing while they head in my direction, or they aren't aroused enough by the sounds of a particular call, or sequence.
Knowing fox like I do, virtually it's a flip of the coin as to which variety will respond if both grey's & red's inhabit the same area. One reason why I know their numbers are very short over here.
Yeah, I do know where the skating rink is....I live 1/2 mile from it, and I've never seen a grey anywhere nearby. Not strolling in the fields, not gnawing on a deer carcass, and definitely not coming in to a call. And that's putting in some heavy hunting over the past 17yrs. in just this area alone, not to mention many others I've hunted.
I can take you right to many fox den's locally, and not knowing what variety is living in them at that time, put you in a guaranteed spot where you'll get one, but I'd bet based on my experience in this area, it'll be a red 99% of the time.
I don't dispute the fact that you've gotten them over here, but when I mentioned your post to my old hunting buddy Dennis, who's got probably 12yrs. more hunting time on me, he smirked and nodded his head, saying (in his limited verbage) "show me".
We're always willing to be proven wrong.....but you gotta give credit, where credit is due.....after all the time we've put in, especially in this one area, you'd have to have seen one by now.
If you've got some magic there hicker, spread the love man....LOL.
We could use a little variety around here....
Take care,
Bob