NYS Coyote Hunters

Really nice looking grey BHW. Top notch /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

RC, yeh, rain and sleet here. Go figure /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

Regards, Mark.
 
the grays are getting more and more prevalent. I used to never see any, now they are almost even with reds in my area.
 
i never see greys. all red fox. i hope to someday harvest a grey.
this weather is crazy...i wish it would just snow..not alot, just enough to cover the ground a bit!
 
Well, no snow. But it looks like for a couple days it will be chilly without rain /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif The hunt is on. Mark.
 
Well I am new to the sight and the sport but the excitement is building for the inagural coyote hunting outting this comming Friday afternoon/Friday night/Saturday morning. The new guns are sighted in, the lights are charged and the calls are ready so now all we have to do is get in the field and learn! The fun part of starting a new type of hunting is that the learning curve is large so one needs to spend alot of time doing it! MORE TIME IN THE FIELD!YES! This sight has already given us a few things to try and a few things not to do so I hope it gets us a start.

Thanks again!
Mike
 
Welcome aboard Mike. Sounds like you are set for the critters. This is a great forum for info and to meet your fellow NYS hunters. Good luck in the hunt /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif Mark.
 
Andy,

If the red's & greys are gettin' 50/50 around your neck of the woods, must be a bunch of grey's settled in nearby to stay.
Possibly something that DEC released or seeded nearby, some time ago.
Like Goose mentioned, we don't have that ratio around here either.
I know the grey's populations never have been that great around here, and you rarely seem them. Once in a great while I can hear one letting out locator barks at night while heading through the woods, and their call is somewhat distinctive.
My partner Dennis (if I remember right) had told me that the Silver's are a color phase of the reds, but obviously, although of the same family, the grey's are a totally different critter. Short nose, shorter, less bushier tail, and they can spring up a tree like a cat.

Like I said, I love to get one good one to have full mounted.

Mike,

Welcome to the forum..........nice place.

Livonia isn't too awful far from me, and Retsof is about my outer range to the east. The Genesee River flats harbor some nice coyotes as well, and if you can get down around Piffard, Retsof or York, those areas have put out some nice dogs. Hunting near the river, probably within 300-500yds on either side, is a good bet.

Like I said, in the last post, this weekend looks like a winner if I get my kids wheels out of the garage.
We've gotten almost 2 feet of snow down here just north of Pike. There's at least 18 inches out on the top of the deck table.....which we laughingly judge our snowfall by.
Thurs. or Friday is suppose to head back up into the mid to high 40's, so hopefully the snow will still be around, but it sure is slushy as hell to lay in, or walk through.

Good luck guys,
Bob
 
Well it looks to be windy & rainy Friday afternoon/ night so this could be a rougher hunt than expected. I would like to see the snow stick around but we will make the best of it. Worse case if it poors we can always hunt a few beer and wings it the local brewhaha.

Handgunr is there state land near the river or dooes one have to knock on doors?

Thanks for the warm welcome all!
Mike
 
Mike,

No state lands around the river that I know of. If you follow Rt#20A down through the village, then when you hit the village limits out past the college heading south, take your next right onto Rt#63.
Continue on down Rt#63, and after crossing the Genesee River bridge, all the flats on both the left and right aren't posted and border the river. Depending on how far you want to walk, you can go quite a ways back.
Going a little farther on down Rt#63, you'll run into Chandler Rd. on your left. If you take Chandler up to your next left, you'll hit River Rd.
That's the first road that borders along the Genesee, and coyotes frequent that whole area quite heavy.

Alot of the nature lover's are buying up big lots along River Rd. and posting the hell out of it. It use to be excellent and pristine hunting area for many years, and was my place to be when I wasn't at home. Since those folks have staked their claims, things have gotten hard on the hunters. But never the less, the game is still there.

Entering along Rt#63, and off of Chandler Rd., is kind of going in the back way, and isn't posted or controlled by the tree huggers. Following the river down farther on foot (if you don't mind walking) off of those two roads, will net better hunting as the coyotes frequent the river bottom down there more so.

Good luck,
Bob
 


{quote}Alot of the nature lover's are buying up big lots along River Rd. and posting the hell out of it. It use to be excellent and pristine hunting area for many years, and was my place to be when I wasn't at home. Since those folks have staked their claims, things have gotten hard on the hunters. But never the less, the game is still there.{quote}

Bob, Same thing here I'm afraid. It is hurting the whole ecosystem in my area. They have a lot of money and no knowledge. AND they don't live here /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif Another case of utter stupidity due to monetary "do-gooders" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif They don't even care about the harm they do----------they ain't here to see it. They are in the city. Regards, Mark.
 
Mark,

Even though an academic "city education" might be a little ahead of the rural areas based on funding, better curriculum or for whatever other reasons, their "environmental education" is extremely stunted for the most part, and usually falls far behind the folks that live in those areas 24/7.

You & I see it on a regular basis, and it only irk's us when those same folks migrate out to these locations feeling that they are "all knowing & worldly" about the goings on rurally the instant that they move in next door.

The problem I see is that using their given rights to post or control lands once owned & allowed to be hunted by previous owners, could be based on environmental ignorance, or just based on a lack of a "rural lifestyle understanding".
Sometimes they choose to do so, above all else, due to "plain arrogance" because they can by right, regardless of any lack of knowledge of the aforementioned reasons.

The last reason seems to be the prominent issue, and really irk's me as far as hunting is concerned. Overall, that's their right, and even though I don't like it, I can respect it.
When they pull the "I'll post my land, but hunt over on yours though", that's when the fur gets flying. Even if I don't own the unposted land that they're on......I'll still say something, as it's just plain selfish.....

I could be wrong, but morally, I feel that it's another issue.

Take care.
Bob
 
Hi Mike and welcome to the board. Lots of good old New Yorkers here.

Well Guys, you know where I've been putting my time in. But since the snow is going to be around in the southern tier for awhile I'm going to try and make a few stands next week. We'll see if there's any action with the addition of the snow.

Type at ya all later...JohnE
 
I guess I'll make my post here. I am from CNY. I have decided to start coyote hunting. I've been an avid duck hunter for about three years, and an avid rabbit, woodchuck, and grouse hunter for the last fifteen (I gave up deer hunting a few years ago when I discovered ducks). I have spent alot of time on this forum just reading posts from the regulars lately. I feel I've learned more about coyote hunting from the people on this board than I could've read in numerous books.
 
Bob:
Without going into a tirade that will raise my already high blood pressure ( at least that is what the VA sez,) arrogance is a most appropriate word for them. Putting posted signs on PUBLIC utilites (i.e. public funded phone poles) which is NOT legal in the State of NY. Riding unregistered ATV's down a small road------------NOT LEGAL. Well, at least that one stopped when one pulled over on my small patch and I wanted some I.D. informing them that they are on my land I have the right under the DEC summary rules to request it and the are driving an illegal vehicle down a small road and that I fully intend to report them to the DEC and State Police. Well,a small tirade /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Regards, Mark.
 
Clutch....nice to see you joined the fray....welcome !

You're not to far from my old stomping grounds around the Syracuse area.

Mark.....

Yeah, blood pressure......it'll give you high blood pressure, even if you're not already afflicted. That recent incident I mentioned, where I was up in a treestand about 20feet, and I watched a very emboldened individual walk right over onto private property and grab a kids toy off of a wagon loaded with wood. The wagon was owned by my buddy, and it was his kids nerf football that was laying on top.

Figuring that it might be a friend of his that helped him stack the wood, or whatever, I kept my mouth shut. What the heck, he knew right where the toy was laying, and, since it was slightly hidden from ground level, the way he went right to it and reached over the wood and grabbed it, I figured he'd been there before, and that it was probably legit.
I figured I'd mention it to the owner anyway, as he was only a couple of hundred yards from me in another stand.
When I told him, he was SMOKIN' MAD, and told me to follow him down to the "perp's" house.

Well, low & behold, the guy (and his wife who was with him) were found to be from the city (Rochester I think), and they were out visiting her mother who owned the property.
Best part was, my buddy who owned the land, found out they were buying the property from her, and we're moving out to become his neighbors. (I rolled my eyes...saying O'Brother)

I watched the whole incident, as it happened, and those arrogant A-holes, got off their ATV and just strutted right on over like they owned the land. Apparently they'd been there before, as they knew exactly where that toy was, and as stupid as it sounds, those idiots knowingly stole the toy.

Well, when we got down to the house to confront them, there the toy layed in the back of that 6 wheeler. The guy started right in lying, saying he found it laying on the ground, and my buddy pointed to me and said, "he's a retired cop, and he witnessed you doing it......wanna try again ?" Hemmin' and hawing, he finally fessed up.

Then his idiot wife said, "so, you were evesdropping on us huh ?"........."No lady, I was hunting, and you got caught stealing....stings doesn't it ?!"

Then she looked at my buddy and asked, "Is this gonna affect things between us as neighbors ?" My buddy looked at her and said, "what do you think ?.....this isn't a very good start !"

Best part...........
The next day, both he, and his son, posted every tree along his property line (which the city-its incidentally disputed with no evidence or knowledge of such), and to top things off, they painted every tree from the ground up to about 4 feet with bright pink paint. His property line runs for about 800yds, and now looks like the runway lights at JFK....LOL.

Needless to say, this was only one incident of many, over 19yrs. as being a Deputy. Not that I hate city folk, hell I was one of them when I was a kid.....but, I've come to expect certain selfish traits from them as a general rule, and when I run across the exception, I'm happily surprised.

Usually dedicated hunters, I mean hardcore hunter's who do it a lot, not just the occasional deer hunter, seem to posses a far higher respect, at least on par, with the rural types.

Ranting aside.......

Have a great weekend all....

Oh....and Clutch.....coyote and fox hunting is very addictive....best advice to an already educated hunter, don't get discouraged easily on this form of hunting....it might take a little bit at first, or beginner's luck might strike and you'll score right out of the gate...patience is a virtue in this area, but man, it gets exciting real quick......adrenalin is a great drug....

Take care,
Bob
 
Posted this on the NY site but thougth I'd share it with you guys here.

Good luck. Looks light someone you guys are getting your weather wish :)

Smart fox or Dumb Hunter???

Tried for fox last night. Settled into a stand with wind blowing in my face. Set the call out below me in some bush in a depression hoping to catch the fox as he came out of the swamp bordering the brush, but before he got in the thick stuff where the call was. Had a nice shooting lane over top of the thick stuff.

After only a couple of minutes,, saw some eyes coming my way. Said to myself "dang this is easy". Lost his eyes just before he got to the more open area. Lost then found eyes ...... too many times to count but in the same place! I didn't know what the heck was going on.? I think he caught something just before he got to the call or found an easier meal. No good shot. Stayed until my face froze. He was still there doing something when I left. When I picked up the call the red light didn't spook him and the wind must have covered up my noise. Even tried lip squesking. He'd look then keep messing with whatever it was he had. At times the wind gust were incredible!

I don't think he's spooked so I may go back on Monday night. Or maybe he just knows it ME and he's got nothing to fear. LOL

Lastly, those headlamps are great. After about 5 minutes I turned it down real low and could see his eyes without a problem whenever he looked around. I was there 30 minutes and never and the light was still going strong.
 
Perri,

Sounds like exactly what you said......found a meal, heading to one....

Wind is a total b*tch though......I'd rather hunt in rain or snow, than hunt in the wind. Makes it tough on both sides. A lot of so called pro hunters say that they won't hunt in the rain, and haven't had any luck in doing so, but unless it's a torrential downpour, I'll go out.
I've done fairly well too. Not really as good as a nice calm day, but better than driving my recliner.

Especially with fox, if you remember the direction he, or she, came in from, more than likely, they'll respond from the same general direction again. This helps tons when hunting them.
Of the two foxes that I nailed recently, I knew the general area where they were, and it allowed me to position myself on a higher ridge expecting their arrival. Sometimes it takes me a few trips to a specific area to nail foxes that are known to hang there.
As long as previous attempts don't educate them too much, I gain an education as to where they're heading in from and can position myself better on successive hunts.

Good luck...
Bob
 
Hey guys, I posted this up a few days back in another forum and wanted to share it with you all. This is my first grey ever, we mostly heve either coyotes or reds respond so this was pretty cool for me. I was sitting over a bait pyle and hopeing for a coyote since its been getting pounded but this little girl showed up right in my lap and I got her at 7 yards.

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