NYS Coyote Hunters

Well......maybe this new storm will produce a little hunger for the predators. Come this morning (Monday) all the schools are closed due to the weather, and since yesterday afternoon (when it started) we've gotten peppered pretty good.
Dennis took the day off Weds. and we're gonna run the whole day through with setups. Being that it's a weekday with little or no signs of other hunters out, we'll probably hit the state lands. Most likely Rattlesnake Hill, well off the roadway.
During the last foray up there, with snow on the ground, there was plenty of sign (mostly coyote), so with new snows, maybe things will be a little more promising.

There's always hope I guess.........

Good luck.......
Bob
 
Got out for a little bit this evening. Wind is really whipping pretty good. Made three stands. Moon is about half. Could see pretty good when the clouds weren't there. Did the usual on the first stand. Played two rounds of distress calls with a 10 minute wait between each set. Then tried a new series of vocalizations and distress calls. No takers. On second and third stand tried vocalizations and distress call series. Called one time then waited. Stayed 30 minutes on each of those stands. Thought I heard one bark at me but it was so d*nm windy it was hard to tell. Actually it wasn't too cold out. Managed to stay comfortable even with the wind. Oh well, there's always tomorrow.

Good hunting.

Perri
 
Bob,

Sounds like your getting hit pretty good with snow. We have a couple of inches total. It starts for a while, looks like a blizzard for a while, then just stops, gotta love Lake Effect snow.

Fred, it was great meeting you and hunting with you also. We'll definately have to do it again. Glad you like the calls. Maybe next time you can come over here and we'll hit the land behind the house.
 
Dave,

Yep, got hit good overnight.....fired up the tractor and cleaned everything out just to wake up this AM and see that we got nailed again last night. Got another 10" to a foot laying in the driveway where I had plowed.
Back at it again.....
We've had it easy so far this year, so nothing really to complain about....

I just called to get an update on my .22 Super Jet barrel, because I wanted to get a little action with it before the season is over. As far as a predator round, it should be about perfect falling just a 100fps or so slower than the .223, on 2/3rds the powder.
I did my homework on this one prior to having the barrel made and ordering the die set. Although the cases need to be formed, they're made from .357 Mag brass (which is cheap and plentiful), and with a pocket full, you can shoot all day. Almost like the .22RF.

Well, besides all that, the weather's lightened up and it looks like Weds. might be real good and maybe they'll be out eatin'.

Good luck to all who head out...
Bob
 
Guys,

My partner in seminars is hammering coyotes. Bottom pic is from this morning, hanging pic is from saturday, and double is from last week. This is only a sample... he gets one every time out

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bhw,

More than likely, your friend's good fortune is a result of location more than anything else. Nice to see someone connecting, as always, but we will usually get better results when we hunt closer to heavier populated areas.
The first dog I got several years back, was just outside the city limits of Batavia.
It could be one of several reasons, but coyotes seem to congregate closer to larger populations of man. My natural assumption is the wider food source.

The populations of coyotes over near Geneseo are far greater than they are around more rural farm country. I went over to hunt a favorite area near there two weeks back, and they had just run dogs through it prior to our arrival, so it was pretty much ruined for a couple of days. But, I've had them follow me out of the thorns over there more than once.

Being located up near Rochester, I'm sure that you'll see (and get) several. They thin out as you get more rural.

Reminds me of the saying......"Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer".....or something like that......maybe the coyote is smarter than we give him credit for....living on our doorstep....

It seems your getting a high frequency of sitings and kills that you've mentioned over several posts, and that's good cause you're getting a great crash course on hunting them.

Moving out from around the city outskirts though I think that you'd be sadly disappointed, as you've seen from several posts between many of us. It's just not the same.
Oh yeah, there out here....but you've got to do double time to catch up to them.

Totally different.....

Anyways, you're blessed, so wreak havoc....

Take care,
Bob
 
Here are the details from my hunt last nite...

- Weather looked perfect all evening as I played with my kids after dinner

- As soon as I put them to bed and grabbed my gear, the snow began to fall

- I headed out anyhow at 9:00 PM

- I settled in at first set-up at 9:20PM after a 500 yd walk to location

- At 9:22 PM, I felt my stomach churn and pressure down below (If you know what I mean!)

- At 9:25 PM, I was waddling back to the truck.. Praying not to have a rectal explosion!

- The 10 minute ride back home was pure misery... As I did my best not to blow mud in my shorts.

- At 9:55 PM, I was sweating like a pig, stripping off my clothes and telling my wife to clear the way, as I sprinted into the bathroom

- At the 9:57 PM, the ordeal was over!

ANOTHER EXCITING HUNT IN NY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
It seems your getting a high frequency of sitings and kills that you've mentioned over several posts, and that's good cause you're getting a great crash course on hunting them.

Crash course? I've been calling for 20 years

Moving out from around the city outskirts though I think that you'd be sadly disappointed, as you've seen from several posts between many of us. It's just not the same.
Oh yeah, there out here....but you've got to do double time to catch up to them.

Totally different.....

I hunt all over the state, my coyote action is always in rural areas
 
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bhw,
It seems your getting a high frequency of sitings and kills that you've mentioned over several posts, and that's good cause you're getting a great crash course on hunting them.

Moving out from around the city outskirts though I think that you'd be sadly disappointed, as you've seen from several posts between many of us. It's just not the same.
Oh yeah, there out here....but you've got to do double time to catch up to them.

Totally different.....




What? Crash course? I've been calling coyotes all across the country for the past 20 years

All of my coyote hunting is in rural areas, and I'm never disappointed... unless I miss!
 
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bhw,
i give you and your partner a thumbs up,man you guys are tearin' em up!! you said you've been calling for 20 years and i say you guys know your stuff thats for sure!! i've only been callin' for a couple years, and have never called a coyote in yet, at least not a visual on one! but i keep tryin' and get out as much as i can. i guess thats all you can do is hunt and learn from it. my personal opinion is that night hunting is the way to get them. or at least your chances are alot greater! i've yet to hunt at night, just been hunting at dusk and dawn, but i'm going to give night huntin' a try one of these days!! thanks guys for the great info you give me and good huntin'!!
goose212
 
bhw,

All I can say is d*mn. Your partner is doing extremely well. Guess he's got it pretty much figured out. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I'm sure some of us would be interested in a few tips, if he's willing to share. It could be a enticement to attend one of your seminars.

I'm really new to this game and have learned a lot from the guys hear and elsewhere online. I've been hunting for a few years and THINK I have a handle on some basic hunting skills. I've said this before, these coyotes are proving me to be a complete a** in the woods. I suspect a lot of it has to do with my set ups etc, but I also think that where I am the density of coyotes is not as high as some other areas in the region. Just a guess. At any rate, I for one an all ears.

Good Hunting,

Perri
 
Handgunr,

Come on, lets have todays report. bhw and his partner are kicking our perverbial a**es. I haven't gotten out in a few days. Hopefully the snow will help out. We only got about 6 inches of the white stuff total.
 
Well I tried again last night. It was beautiful out. Tried two stands. Both on the same farm. Heard the coyotes there the night before at 0120 and 0320. It's right across the river from my partners house. Well they were there, but not where I was. They were .... at least a mile down the valley and up in the WOODS!! I mean WAY the hell on top of the mountain. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif I stayed on my stand for 45 minutes hoping and praying. LOL Then I moved down around the end of the ridge I was on and tried for another 20 minutes. No luck, but damn it was nice out. Also heard another group howling miles away down another valley. Was back in the house by 2130. Will be at it again tonight.

The weather is great, get out there if you can. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Perri
 
Well bhw.....I stand corrected...sounds like you've got a few years under your belt anyway.
I think that I mistook you for another, and for that I apologize.....no harm, no foul.
My reason for the reference of a "crash course", I guess.

Don't take it personally, because I never meant it that way.
You have to agree though that your successes (which I congradulated you for), are not on par with the results we've all been seeing elsewhere. And I'm sure you really don't think that it's because we're all bad hunters, or doing it wrong.
It's more a matter of location, and maybe "when" they're hunted I'd say.
I'm glad to see you and your buddy score, and disappointed to not be able to say the same for us, but regardless, I'm always happy to see someone nailing them....bottom line.

That being said, and recognizing your experience, for sh+ts -n- giggles you can always come down here and give it a try......like I said, I think you'll see a major difference.
Maybe you'll get my point, or maybe I'll be eatin' crow (not too proud, been there before).....based on my experience around here, I'd be curious to see. I can even direct you to the "best possible area" to hunt, if needed.
When you mentioned you hunt in "rural areas", how far out from the city are you going ? Our seperate definitions of "rural" might be totally different.
From you mentioning that you were hunting 10 mins. from your house, the coyote population doesn't really thin much until you range maybe 15-20 miles, or more, from the outskirts. If you're hunting our area's down here, and getting the same results, I'd be greatly surprised. Even at night.
Many of the coyotes down here aren't surfacing from the woods (if they do at all) until sometimes 10:00PM or later.

Out from the city, the population levels drop progressively quicker from just north of Avon, on down through. Again, you'll see higher concentrations of coyotes around more populated areas like Geneseo, or Batavia, as an example.
My point was that coyotes have an affinity for living closer in relation to man, not only for the more plentiful food sources, but in essence, they're safer for the most part. Hunting pressure is far less, which gives them that sense of safety.

I've hunted nights in the past, and although agreeably, the percentages are greater overall, they're not all that much better than pre-dawn, or post-dusk, at least around here anyway. The photo's of your buddy (at least the two) appear as though he was hunting during those times (could be wrong).
Most dogs break from their den's within 45 mins or so after complete darkness.....some even earlier. With a good covering of snow on the ground, they're easily spotted crossing open area's, but they seem to stay closer to cover until much later at night. I've heard them out howling numerous times right after dusk over many years, but usually failed to see them in open fields until much later.

As far as experience, I'm 48 now, and I think that besides the few northern "coys", or "coydogs", that I've shot many, many moons ago (originally from up north), I've only gotten serious on coyotes in the last 10 to 12yrs. probably.
One of the first odd animals I took locally was a feral dog/coy cross, with a bow back in the early 90's, (confirmed by NYSDEC). During that time (early to mid 90's), and even before, you saw little or no sign, not even speaking of seeing one out in the open at all.
Yes, they were there, but in such small numbers, you'd be wasting your time even trying to hunt them by any method. When they can run dogs through the woods and not boot anything out, or even den them up, you know the "calling hunters" aren't going to do very well.

For the most part, the coyote population, up until the last several years, hasn't been large enough to support a good hunting season very well. Maybe up near you possibly, but not down here, 45+ miles away.
DEC had explained a couple years back that their populations in the last 7-8 yrs. had exploded, allowing a reasonable hunting season. I worked alongside DEC in my old job, and many of their biologist's knew far more than I regarding coyotes...their brains were picked often.

Like I said, no malicious intent....and again, congrats on what you & your partner are getting.........my arguement is not based on talent, or lack thereof.

PS....they even sell Immodium down here in the sticks.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif just kiddin'...been there as well.

Take care,
Bob
 
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Handgunr,

Come on, lets have todays report. bhw and his partner are kicking our perverbial a**es. I haven't gotten out in a few days. Hopefully the snow will help out. We only got about 6 inches of the white stuff total.



Dave,
I don't mind getting my a$$ kicked now & then....keeps you humble....
Went out Weds. and man we had a ball......didn't kill a thing, but saw plenty. We hunted two seperate locations. Just outside of Batavia, and over near Geneseo. In both area's we hunted on laneways, as brush was heavy on both sides and we only brought our rifles...no shotguns.
As we were walking down a lane that passed through heavy woods on our first setup, we crest a knoll walking very quietly, and stopped to survey a possible setup location. We were in a shaded area, but could see clearly in both directions. As I turned my head back in the direction we were going to head, a huge red fox had crested another knoll up a ways (about 100yds) and as we were frozen still, he bolted off into the brush.

A big AW-SH*T.....came forth, and I setup right there and started calling....after a few seconds, with my crosshairs in the area where the fox disappeared, all of a sudden a female red pops up about 25yds beyond the knoll I was on.
Yep, another "oh sh*t" (quieter). I cocked the Encore and after repositioning the scope, I could see that the crosshairs just cleared the crest of the knoll I was on, while swinging to her head. In the split second I had, I thought "man, is this bullet gonna clear the ground, or what ?"
Just as I was ready to squeeze, she turned and bolted back into the brush. No big deal, I thought, I'll give it a rest and come back. We headed out where we were originally going anyway, and after seeing nothing, I alone, headed back around to call on the female again.

Now, so that you understand, this laneway is less than the width of a single car driveway....feet at the most. This female red was smart.
So smart, that on the way back to the area, I positioned myself on the other knoll (kinda like a set of camel humps) and started calling. Keeping my head down, so that just the top of my my hat and gun barrel were barely visible, I started calling. Nothing responded....or so I thought.
After getting to my feet and starting to walk, I spotted where that little b*tch came out and sat in a spot where she just peered over a small mound and spotted me. Not more than 20ft. away. Never saw or heard her....like I said, quiet snow...

Now I was determined....heading over near where we figured her den was, which is very heavy brush, I started calling. A long shot in there would've been 20yds.
I grabbed that "medium rabbit distress" you sold me Dave, and I really wailed on it. I put everything into it and didn't hold back.....

I never saw any preliminary sign of her.....then, all of a sudden.....ZOOOOOOM...she went flying past me at MACH 2 within 15ft., until she caught my scent line behind me. She did a fast hook manuver, and shot back around, angling back to where she came from. Scared the B-geesus outta me.

Well, we pulled up stakes and headed over to Geneseo and one of my favorite go to spots. An old abandoned railroad bed about two miles or so long.
After walking up the bed about a mile or so, we spot a large red fox walking up the bed mousing (which is the norm over there).
I plop down in the middle of the bed, and flip my scope covers up to shoot. As I reached for the raspy rabbit call, the fox jumped off the RR bed about 120yds up from us into the brush. I started calling in hopes of bringing the fox back around to the bed for a clear shot.
As I started to call, in between where the fox jumped off the bed, and where I was, a feral cat pops up onto the railroad bed and starts running at me.
As he got closer, he starts running at me sideways (dogwalking kind of) with his tail all puffed up and ears down spitting & hissing, all while I was still calling.
Now mind you, Dennis is standing right besides me snickering, with his .17 Remington.
As I lost the cat in the scope being so close, I said, giggling, "you better quit snickering, and blast that bastard if he decides to make a move"...he was that close.

I think he realized he was looking down the barrel of a .223, cause all of a sudden at 10ft., he bolted off into the brush. We held our shots because we were there for fox & coyotes.
From where we were, to the end of the railroad bed was about 800-1000yds. After seeing the one fox, I knew there was more...always has been.
It's a car's width wide, and unless they jump out on the bed and walk towards, or away from you, your shot "window" will usually be brief.
Getting to a good spot, I started scoping the upper end of the bed, and all of a sudden a yellow, or golden fox stepped out onto the bed about 700yds up. I've heard of certain color phases of fox like this, but it's the first one I've ever seen. In the sun it was absolutely gorgeous. Trying to call it in was fruitless, it wasn't having any.
While Dennis set up in an adjacent field about 50yds off the RR bed, I stayed down on the bed itself.
Firing up the E-caller for a couple minutes, then stopping, I got the feeling that something was watching me. I turned my head to see a red fox standing 10ft. behind me with a mangey tail. As I rolled my head around further...it split back into the brush....

That was it for the day.....no shots, but it was fun regardless. Your calls seem to be getting good responses.
Now, how about you ?

Take care,
Bob
 
hey guys,
went out yesterday late afternoon to hunt the last hour or so. what a nice night to be out. anyway, i got set up and started calling with rabbit distress on my preymaster. i was calling on and off for at least 45 min. nothin' showed. so i'm sittin' there wondering what i did wrong. it's just about dark, but i can still see pretty good with the snow on the ground. so i said well i'll sit here for 10 more min. or so then head out. all of a sudden i hear a howl, not far either. so i'm in shock,i howled back with my preymaster, and he answers me and another one too. so we go back and forth for about a minute and then nothin'? so i'm sitting tight watchin' and waitin', thinkin' maybe they would come in. nope. i was thinkin' afterwords about the whole thing, maybe i should have thrown in some distress cries after howling or maybe did some pup distress? that was the first time i've heard them howl, so i've accomplished one of my goals this season, to get them to respond to me. when do you guys think i can go back there again and try calling them? a week? thanks guys.
goose212
 
Handgunr,

I haven't had a chance to get out. Maybe tomorrow, not sure yet. I have been busy getting orders out. Glad you started seeing some, that always raises hope. Seems like maybe the snow and cold weather is helping out. I did find some nice area today on my way back from getting some materials. I am going to have to go back there sometime.

Don't ya hate it when they sit there and watch you. I've had that happen before too, really ticks ya off. Also had coyotes come just up far enough on a rise to be able to look over, bust ya, and head the other way. Was tempted to shoot partner, he was supposed to be watching that direction. :).

Haven't heard a thing from Hayzer or Perri, maybe they're buried in a snowdrift somewhere.
 
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