Help with TSS

Slagiatt said:
A hundred dollar bounty on yotes, really? Wonder how much they pay out each year, thats crazy.
Click to expand...

$190K in 2023. Less than 4,000 coyotes turned in, by only 390 people. So they averaged less than $500 each. Probably be lower for 2024.

Highest year ever was 2017 they paid out $580K, but that was before they made any attempt to stop people from turning in Nevada, Wyoming and Idaho coyotes. And I'd make a large wager that a LOT of that money was paid for out of state coyotes. I know that the year before the first year they started paying it, guys who knew it was coming were stockpiling coyotes from Nevada waiting for the bounty to go into effect. I know a few guys that hardly if ever hunt in Utah that turned in all the coyotes they killed. As soon as the state started making an effort to deter that, they stopped collecting bounty and amazingly, the next year, the number of coyotes turned in dropped by over 50%. And the numbers turned in have been dropping every year since.

Raising it to $100 in certain areas just reflects how utterly useless the program has been. No coyote bounty has ever been effective, anywhere, ever. But it's popular and that's all that really matters.

- DAA
 
I’ve never even considered turning in Coyotes for the bounty from Nevada or Wyoming. And we usually kill more Coyotes in those two States every year than Utah. Just never even thought about that. And it does seem like we’ve killed more coyotes per year since they added the gps location app. Maybe because they are getting less pressure because guys are giving up. Never thought of that
 
maybe I forgot how to kill coyotes or something, or just suck. The bounty is stupid and is a desperate attempt for SFW and wildlife interests to act like they are doing something when the reality is ever since they got in control of the money, big game hunting has done nothing but suck even more. My experience Big game hunting this year was like tactics I imagine being used at a drug rehab facility. Lets expose you to hunting but lets make it suck as much as humanly possible.

I always think coyotes get blamed for every dead animal that dies for whatever reason and has been knaww'd on. oh my goodness musta been coyotes that took that poor animal down. but then again I guess I wouldn't mind a few deer being turned into coyote turds anyways so I am probably biased. The way utah limits tags now days, I feel like has the opposite effect, I used to get a tag every year, probably only half ass'd hunted every other year. but make a guy wait for a tag for 3 years they are going to hunt a lot harder and be more likely to shoot a broke Diick deer as well if they know the next time the see a tag is 4 years away.
 
DAA said:
$190K in 2023. Less than 4,000 coyotes turned in, by only 390 people. So they averaged less than $500 each. Probably be lower for 2024.

Highest year ever was 2017 they paid out $580K, but that was before they made any attempt to stop people from turning in Nevada, Wyoming and Idaho coyotes. And I'd make a large wager that a LOT of that money was paid for out of state coyotes. I know that the year before the first year they started paying it, guys who knew it was coming were stockpiling coyotes from Nevada waiting for the bounty to go into effect. I know a few guys that hardly if ever hunt in Utah that turned in all the coyotes they killed. As soon as the state started making an effort to deter that, they stopped collecting bounty and amazingly, the next year, the number of coyotes turned in dropped by over 50%. And the numbers turned in have been dropping every year since.

Raising it to $100 in certain areas just reflects how utterly useless the program has been. No coyote bounty has ever been effective, anywhere, ever. But it's popular and that's all that really matters.

- DAA
Click to expand...

Last part of this is reason number 75,569 that I hate bounties
 
Back in the late 70's - early 80's some counties here in Missouri paid a bounty on coyotes. $15 per coyote at the county courthouse. You took your coyote to the courthouse and went to the clerk's office and one of the secretaries would come out to your truck, you had to cut the ears off the coyote and give them to the lady and she would pay you out in cash right there after you signed a receipt.

I was doing a little trapping back then and on my best year between coyotes, bobcats, coons, and a few muskrats and beavers I bought a new Colt Python .357 Magnum with my fur check. Roughly 15 years ago my son was a college kid who loved hunting and fishing but spare money was kinda tight for him. He wanted a new shotgun, a Benelli semi-auto. I told him we could do that with a little luck by calling bobcats. I struck a deal with a local taxidermist to bring him the carcass and he would pay us half the rate on finished fur. Good cat hides from this area brought from $100 - $150 at the time. We made enough to pay about half of the cost of the $1200 Benelli. It was a lot of fun, not particularly profitable but a good experience for my son.
 
steve garrett said:
maybe I forgot how to kill coyotes or something, or just suck. The bounty is stupid and is a desperate attempt for SFW and wildlife interests to act like they are doing something when the reality is ever since they got in control of the money, big game hunting has done nothing but suck even more. My experience Big game hunting this year was like tactics I imagine being used at a drug rehab facility. Lets expose you to hunting but lets make it suck as much as humanly possible.

I always think coyotes get blamed for every dead animal that dies for whatever reason and has been knaww'd on. oh my goodness musta been coyotes that took that poor animal down. but then again I guess I wouldn't mind a few deer being turned into coyote turds anyways so I am probably biased. The way utah limits tags now days, I feel like has the opposite effect, I used to get a tag every year, probably only half ass'd hunted every other year. but make a guy wait for a tag for 3 years they are going to hunt a lot harder and be more likely to shoot a broke Diick deer as well if they know the next time the see a tag is 4 years away.
Click to expand...
Minus the bounty part, this could of been me writing about Colorado.

In 2005 Colorado combined Division of Wildlife and the Division of Parks and Outdoor Recreation. The entire thing has been f'd up every since. Of course all of CO is getting more califoniaized and more f'd up every year. Was once a great state. Not so much now.
 
Back
Top