China tariffs and thermals

" What was the Roman empire's down fall?" Paid off all those trying to attack it, with silver, gold and anything else worth value. Went broke!
 
no doubt in my mind we are getting toxins our foods to help big pharma make money. they no longer produce real vaccines or cures because there is no money in a cure. there happens to be billions in keeping sick.
 
A considerable amount of over simplification by many, especially Dave. I guess he should have run and won the election, he knows how to do it so much better than Trump. Give it a couple years and see where the economy is and the rest of the world as well, my guess is that things will be quite rosy, and we won't be under the thumb of China.
 
Hilarious. You think we can rebuild supply chains, work force, and manufacturing facilities in a couple years? Now, that is over simplification!

Giving bad ideas a couple years is the worst idea I ever heard. That is like saying I'm gonna try meth for a couple years and we will see what happens.
 
Roman gov forgot it's to serve the people (vs the people serving the Gov) and had to hire mercenaries for it's army. Ran out of $ and lost. Like the German vs Rome and Rome vs Constantinople (Rome/Spain too - reason for the Spanish Inquisition)). History just repeats it's self, AKA Egypt, Ottoman, UK, Germany, etc.
Yup, all the Big Boys are afraid of the supply chain. Not a problem - the automated manufacturing equipment is the hold up. Don't believe the NEWS or PROFESSORS.
 
popper43 said:
" What was the Roman empire's down fall?" Paid off all those trying to attack it, with silver, gold and anything else worth value. Went broke!
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Downfall of the Roman Empire little different than downfall of Americas economy and culture . I interoperate it as America Pays Both internationally and Domestic. Internationally it more like it is paying the Largest Bill-$$$ for globalist agenda of social engineering other countries, and securing control of their economies and major natural resources . Then same time Domestically our own Federal Government pay's select entities both government and private in premeditated plan of acceleration for economical collapse by paying millions of invaders in crossing an open door invitation policy at our border . Domestically lowers greatly the standard of living of American citizens. Internationally raises the standard of living for the invaders countries they were monetarily encouraged to leave. Subsequently the globalist agenda of 'equality' is accomplished with the entire worlds population all living Equal. All working for living equally at the lowest common denominator, ' Except for Them '.
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Calling it free trade is like calling earned income actually earned income rather than un-earned income. It was set up 45 years ago to destroy American manufacturing with a 26% tariff slapped on American business to make it harder to compete . Nice to see a president stomping on some past presidents toes while trying to support the American people.
 
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Calling it free trade is like calling earned income actually earned income rather than un-earned income. It was set up 45 years ago to destroy American manufacturing with a 26% tariff slapped on American business to make it harder to compete . Nice to see a president stomping on some past presidents toes while trying to support the American people.
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Yes. The current system was setup by the globalists to destroy American manufacturing. However, you can't blindly stomp on toes and lash out.

You need a plan.

We are $36T in debt, have no manufacturing to speak of, and our supply chain is dependent on China. Fix this first. It will take years. Then, cut them off gradually.

That requires patience and strategy. The 3 year old we elected president does not have these characteristics.
 
"We are $36T in debt, have no manufacturing to speak of, and our supply chain is dependent on China" Really?
" current system was setup .... to destroy American manufacturing" Really?
My experience, it was always for a PROFIT. Just worked for manufacturing companies for 45 years, maybe I'm wrong.
 
popper43 said:
"We are $36T in debt, have no manufacturing to speak of, and our supply chain is dependent on China" Really?
" current system was setup .... to destroy American manufacturing" Really?
My experience, it was always for a PROFIT. Just worked for manufacturing companies for 45 years, maybe I'm wrong.
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I'll let you two hash that out, but I live in an area that was totally gutted and destroyed by NAFTA. Sadly, it has yet to make a come back.
 
"totally gutted and destroyed by NAFTA." yup lots of place in the US ruined by NAFTA (profits). Trump trying to correct that. I don't deny US has lost a lot of manufacturing but we still have a lot left. A lot was 'we the people' demanding clean air, etc. Rochester, Pittsburg and oil patches as examples. At least you got Boeing in SC. Doubt many remember Seattle when SST was cancelled.
 
popper43 said:
"totally gutted and destroyed by NAFTA." yup lots of place in the US ruined by NAFTA (profits). Trump trying to correct that. I don't deny US has lost a lot of manufacturing but we still have a lot left. A lot was 'we the people' demanding clean air, etc. Rochester, Pittsburg and oil patches as examples. At least you got Boeing in SC. Doubt many remember Seattle when SST was cancelled.
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I don't know for a fact, but I have been told several times that Boeing doesn't have a lot of "Boeing employees" because they contract everything out?
 
Boeing Seattle is union mostly, S.C. not so. This is an article about Puerto Rico's pharmaceutical industry - pretty much gone now - PROFIT motive!
Long read but interesting. Puerto Rico's Pharmaceutical Fix. Then we got stuff from Canada (China via Canada).
Same happened to US industry. I tried to get parts from a German company but they moved production to US, then Mexico, then Asia/China. Never did get the ordered parts due to lead time so found a different vendor. You need to understand that most of US companies are 'owned' by the big investment companies, as noted in the above article. Yes, SEC attempts to restrict 'ownership' of stock. Look at WHO loses $ due to tariffs. Clue- read the article!
 
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Boeing is my biggest customer. I have been at all the facilities in the Puget Sound for over the last 2 decades. Boeing is a literal sh*t show. It is a mere shadow of it's former self. They outsource everything. You should see the flow chart for the various components that actually make up the plane. Boeing essentially puts the final pieces together like LEGOs.

It takes a month to get a simple PO for a part. Why? Because they outsourced purchasing to India because some bean counter thought it was a good idea. That person should be tortured. India has the dumbest human beings on the planet. They have the intelligence of earth worms. Everyone I know at Boeing hates it and they can't wait to retire.

Boeing was a great company destroyed by upper management. The culture there is so bad it is beyond words.
 
GREED destroyed boeing, they wanted more profits and started cutting corners. this put passengers lives at risk. i still think Boeing officials should go to jail for the danger they put people in and the people they killed in those overseas crashes.
 


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