Baiting


Scalloper, sounds like you have the perfect place for a bait site. That light mounted closer to the bait could put a ton of light on the bait site for shooting. Used with a 12 volt battery and remote control switch would be just the ticket. I get excited just thinking about it, and if you decide to do that, please be generous with photos for all of us to see.
 
Today was the first time I had to use snowshoes to get into setup my blind and put out bait. Pulled a sled with scoop shovel, 2 pounder and stakes for blind and bait. We have knee deep snow, no sign at my hayfield location, but I killed those 3, need the neighbors to show up.
 
Originally Posted By: 6mm06
Scalloper, sounds like you have the perfect place for a bait site. That light mounted closer to the bait could put a ton of light on the bait site for shooting. Used with a 12 volt battery and remote control switch would be just the ticket. I get excited just thinking about it, and if you decide to do that, please be generous with photos for all of us to see.
Its a pain loading photos on here.
My buddies that have the other bait I mentioned shot at least one last night.
 
First visit to the baiting forum/thread. Appears that it is a continuous thread as opposed to forum w/individual topics?

First off, I am primarily a predator caller, but won't pass a target of opportunity; have never tried setting up a bait station, but have often taken advantage of existing gut piles, bone yards and wildlife or livestock carcasses over the years.

Like to hear any thoughts you guys might have on why no critters were attracted to this bull:
A 2000 lb bull expired just inside the gate of a pasture we were not allowed to hunt. I asked the ranch owner if we could move the carcass just across the fence into one of the other pastures we hunted regularly in order to use it for bait and he said to be his guest.

I had moved dead zebra, nilgai & other smaller critters, but nothing this big. All were frequented by coyotes & scavenger birds repeatedly.

Had to use 4xgrammaw on the bull, but we managed to drag it several hundred yards to a spot where we could slip into in the dark. We checked it out regularly for several weeks. Nothing, not even the birds touched that bull. Never learned the cause of death of that bull, but suspect it may have died from some disease that left the carcass tainted somehow??

Anyone have a similar experience or other ideas?

Regards,
hm
 

HM, I don’t have a clue. Actually similar has happened to me this fall. My son shot a deer and I used the rib cage (had meat on it) at my bait site. The few coyotes that came to the site wouldn’t touch it. Even the buzzards didn’t flock to it like I expected from previous experience. A bobcat did chew on it a couple of nights, and a red fox even less. That has left me scratching my head, wondering why.
 
I have no clue on the deer. But if the cow had ever been treated with antibiotics recently, generally coyotes won't touch them. At least my experience.
 
Originally Posted By: hm1996First visit to the baiting forum/thread. Appears that it is a continuous thread as opposed to forum w/individual topics?

First off, I am primarily a predator caller, but won't pass a target of opportunity; have never tried setting up a bait station, but have often taken advantage of existing gut piles, bone yards and wildlife or livestock carcasses over the years.

Like to hear any thoughts you guys might have on why no critters were attracted to this bull:
A 2000 lb bull expired just inside the gate of a pasture we were not allowed to hunt. I asked the ranch owner if we could move the carcass just across the fence into one of the other pastures we hunted regularly in order to use it for bait and he said to be his guest.

I had moved dead zebra, nilgai & other smaller critters, but nothing this big. All were frequented by coyotes & scavenger birds repeatedly.

Had to use 4xgrammaw on the bull, but we managed to drag it several hundred yards to a spot where we could slip into in the dark. We checked it out regularly for several weeks. Nothing, not even the birds touched that bull. Never learned the cause of death of that bull, but suspect it may have died from some disease that left the carcass tainted somehow??

Anyone have a similar experience or other ideas?

Regards,
hm
Yes, I got a cow from a farmer one time and put it on my bait station. That was in February. That cow was still there in June and like you said not even the birds would eat it. The only thought I had was the coyotes/birds could smell the "infection" I dont actually know but I do know others have see this happen also.
 
Glad to be back here as I have not been on here in a long time...I have not lost the itch. Previously have used cow in middle of winter and deer. Coyotes appetite is deer and small game and they are soft skin. Your cow story sounds similar to mine, however I would try cutting through the hide to give the coyote an opening especially in cold temps. I have had mixed results with cows and your thought of infection sounds possible, i would add to that possibly any medications a cow may have been given. I got a hold of a couple of dead calves and deer hide trimmings. Calves out a week added deer 3 days later coyotes on pile today at noon ..no shot as he was dragging hide into woods.....ugh!
 
Quote:I have no clue on the deer. But if the cow had ever been treated with antibiotics recently, generally coyotes won't touch them. At least my experience.

That is entirely possible. Figured it had something to do with an odor that the scavengers sensed, as they didn't touch it.

Glad to hear others have experienced this as well. Have had good luck over other carcasses, but this one was a puzzle. Thanks, guys.

Regards,
hm
 
Call it Global warming or whatever else you want to call it. I finally broke the ice again or slump or something. It's been so long since I killed a baited coyote I hate to admit it. Right at two years. They just disappeared from my new house location. We now have a new hunting lease that is 120 miles one way. I have spent 7 or 8 nights there trying to kill a coyote. I see them on camera one night, I go the next, nothing. Well things changed last night (Friday) after I got lots of pics Thursday night. The first coyote came in about 7:00 and as my luck goes, my AR misfired for the first time ever. That dreaded LOUD click, no boom. The coyote heard it but did not bolt. I eased the gun back inside, moved away from the port and cycled the action. I might have been a little nervous after that, not sure but I shot and the coyote bolted out. I waited till 8:00 to go look but found nothing, no blood no coyote. I looked again this morning but nada. I couldn't view the video till I got back home today and that shot might have broke low. In realtime it looks like dead meat but in slow motion it looks like it was maybe too low.
The next one came in with a mate at 6:40 this morning. I got up and got the gun out the port as quiet as I could. Got the shot off and WELL I BE, this coyote was DRT, not even a twitch. The mate made a clean get away.
It's about 100 yds, I haven't ranged it yet.

Video will be a few days late. I have both shots recorded but I have some urgent biz to take care of. Decent looking male, I skinned him for a pelt.

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Nice, Week. It finally came together after all that preparation.

It’s been very slow here too. I stayed at the shack the last two nights just for enjoyment. Haven’t seen a coyote since December 20. It appeared to be a female. She didn’t hang around very long and hasn’t been back since.
 
I might have just missed a coyote last night. I dumped some old cat food in front of a sensor about 60 yds from my window. I woke up around 1:30am to the alarm going off multiple times. I rolled out of bed, grabbed the .223 with digital night vision and stumbled to the window. Scanned the area and saw nothing and the alarm went quiet right before I got to the window. I watched for about 30 seconds and then headed back to bed. As I was putting the gun back in its place I heard two other alarms further out go off in quick sequence, indicating something was leaving quickly....about the right pace for a coyote to be trotting away. I may have a chance at another coyote soon.

To be continued....
 
Way to go Week!!! Long time coming, but, it sounds like you definitely have some activity on that lease! Maybe more to come soon. Awesome deal!!! Congrats!!!

CT, stay after em, that is what keeps us coming back!!! Prepping brass and loading today to stay prepared.

hm, great to see you in this thread! I have had some luck using domestic critters for bait. But, they were new born calfs and I believe a lamb. It took along time for any animals to warm up to those compared to deer and beaver. As has been said above, I have no clue on your situation, but, would agree, theses critters are smart as far as what not to eat. Stay after em, and don't be shy coming back and keeping us posted on your adventures!
 
Thx, baitpile. Have hunted predators on three ranches in three counties for past 20 years. Farthest (and my favorite) about 85 miles, others about 50. All three ranches owned by same family and all active cattle plus well managed hunting ranches 6 months or so out of the year, so all had "bone yards" where remains from game are taken regularly during hunting season.

Two of these bone yards are tightly surrounded by brush, so not user friendly for bait hunting, but the one on farthest ranch was a perfect setup. Did manage to ambush a few on trails coming from and going to the other two over the years.

Remains were dumped in a 50' long, 8' deep pit (white line @ lower center of pic). Prevailing wind from SE (Yellow arrow). Brush to SW is too close to try to slip into + sometimes swirling wind could alert the pit.

To the north of the pit is a 300 yard rollerchopped field. Depending upon rain & seasons, sometimes grass/bushes are too tall to see from brush line to the north, but dry winters, we would slip into position NW of pit before daylight (white route), set up our sticks (red X) and wait for enough light to shoot. Coyotes often would carry scraps out of the pit up onto the roadway south of pit and present an opportunity resulting in a number of doubles for my partner and I.
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Another angle (white heart=shooting setup):
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Used to hunt 3 days/week most of the year, but unfortunately, due to age related health issues, my partner and I are both fortunate to get out for an afternoon hunt only so odds not too good for repeat performances. We both still enjoy it immensely when the stars line up and we can get out again, however.

Regards,
hm
 

Last night made 20 nights since I have seen a coyote. I thought it was about time for one to show up, so I stayed at the shack, hoping. It worked this time. He showed up around 3:35 AM but didn't hang around long enough for me to get the scope on and ready for a shot. I went back to bed and slightly over an hour later the sensor went off again. He was back. I have seen other times like this when they won't commit to the bait right off, will leave only to return a little while later.

I used the 940nm and 850nm spotlights along with a weapon mounted 850 illuminator. This is the third coyote I have taken with the .308 Bergara shooting 110 gr. Varmageddon's. In usual fashion from the .308, he hit the ground right there. I had the ATN 4k Pro digital 3-14x mounted on the rifle.

One problem I am having with the .308 is that the weapon-mounted IR light turns off at the recoil. Anyone know how to remedy this? This has happened before when using the .308.

The video shows my bait site setup and how I go about it. The kill comes a little later. I use a security camera and monitor at the cabin to monitor what is there when the sensor goes off. That way I don't have to get out of bed and turn the scope on. I have a monitor mounted at my bedside and can quickly see what's there.





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This coyote is the ugliest one I have ever shot. He was rubbed on this back, and his neck hair was matted into knots.

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