6mm vs 22-250

Murl B said:
I like the 22-250 but have no use for one,
load a .243 with a fast twist light 58gr. 70gr, it's as fast or faster than a 22-250 and as accurate, load the .243 heavy up to 115 gr. and you have a big game rifle. the .243 is way more versatile than the 22-250 with a better bullet selection. YMMV Murl B.
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I believe you missed it, but the 22-250 and 243 had a baby and they name it the 22 Creedmoor! ;)

Of course, there are some nasty rumors going around that it's a bastard child of the 6mm CM
 
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My scope is 4inches above bore on my desert tech so I can sigjt dead on at 100 and I think I'm 1.3 inches high at like 225 and like 6.7 low at 400, I'm assuming thats what you were asking yellow hammer.
 
Have had and used both 22-250 and 243, shooting 243 now with 87 grain V Max shot 55 grain V Max in 250.Less powder and higher velocity in 250.less wind drift with 243 if that matters to you.Will stick with 243,did have splash problems with 65 grain V Max .Runners virtually does not happen with 87 grain V Max and have had some splashes with the 250 occasionally,If on the fence flip a coin as both are excellent choices
 
I like my 243 using 87g vmax. This is an exit at 200 yrd...they can be messy. My 6 creed does the same both have 8 twist barrels.
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crapshoot said:
Care to guess how much velocity you would gain by running say a 75-85gr projo?
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I generally estimate you get around 100 FPS per 10 grains of bullet weight, give or take.

The above load, which was a 3 or 5 shot ave, didn't show any pressure to speak of, but I know had to be "too much".

Best load ended up being with the 108 Hornadys.
 
Duhhh said:
Yeah I think I need a 6 PRC to push an 80 grainer haha. Any idea what twist you’d go with to hopefully not spin them apart?
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Boy, I don't know, I guess at those potential velocities, I'd look into monos, like the TTSX or Hammers & follow their recommendations.
 
crapshoot said:
So pushing 4k with a 75gr bullet ought to hit coyotes like the hammer of Thor. Barrel life not so much.
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Sometimes for some. No cartridge will kill anything any faster than another cartridge. What kills is the shooter's ability to place the bullet he's using in the right spot! But what the bullet does do is destroy thing's! Bullet coming apart destroys pelts. Think about the bullet your using and where to place it. If I were hunting coyotes a lot, I don't, I'd give a lot of thought to going with a heavier bullet but using quite a bit lower velocity. Slower tuffer bullet won't come apart as bad especially when used at lower velocity. And the slower tuffer bullet will kill just a quick if properly placed. I think if I was a serious coyote hunter and selling pelts I'd go with hard cast bullets at lower velocity. Probably means you'd have to plan on shorter shots due to lack of velocity.

As for a 6mm, only ever had one and wouldn't own another. Problem is the length of the case. Mine was a Mod 700 Remington and due to the length of the magazine I could not load bullet's out to were I wanted them, magazine just to short. On the other hand I'm on I think my third 243 and no problem seating bullets out where I want them. I like the bullet just off the lands and seated to the base of the neck. Using 75gr bullet's in them came about as close at possible to doing just that. Of course for saving pelts the 6mm 75gr bullet is a bit tuff on them! Shooting my present 243 at a paper target taped to a Styrofoam frame at 200 yds, those 75gr V-Max bullets were blowing up going through 1" Styrofoam as witnessed by all the blown up jacket material. I'm not all that sure a heavier bullet would help unless the velocity was greatly lowered. Then of course shooting long becomes a problem. I think if I wanted to sell coyote pelts I'd learn to trap and shoot them with either a 22 RF gun or maybe my Mod 16 S&W with heavy cast bullets in 32 Long.

75gr bullet at 4,000 fps? Where ya gonna get that? And if you do barrel life probably wouldn't be so good but the pelts will take a beating also!
 
I was just thinking. years ago a couple coyote hunter's stopped at our local restaurant after hunting a local's ranch for them. Asked what they were using. 223 Rem with 50gr Hornady SX bullets. I asked if that bullet didn't tear up the pelts and they told me no. Seem's they went in and stayed there. I was told picking up the dead coyote's was like picking up a bag of water. Some how I kinda of suspect a 75gr V-Max bullet from a 6mm bullet is probably going to fast. From my 243 I get right at 3400fps with that bullet. Blows the bullet up pretty good but a coyote just seems a bit fragile to hold the bullet inside.
 
Shot placement is always key. Larger/heavier calibers offer greater penitration for off angle shots (south end of a north bound coyote) and velocity does strange things to an animals insides and nervous system.

I already said barrel life would be shite and the OP isn't concerned with pelt damage.
I run 75gr v-max in my 25-06 for coyotes. They do make a mess when they grenade. So do the 75gr hp's.
Pelts? Don't care here.
 
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Polock said:
Sometimes for some. No cartridge will kill anything any faster than another cartridge. What kills is the shooter's ability to place the bullet he's using in the right spot! But what the bullet does do is destroy thing's! Bullet coming apart destroys pelts. Think about the bullet your using and where to place it. If I were hunting coyotes a lot, I don't, I'd give a lot of thought to going with a heavier bullet but using quite a bit lower velocity. Slower tuffer bullet won't come apart as bad especially when used at lower velocity. And the slower tuffer bullet will kill just a quick if properly placed. I think if I was a serious coyote hunter and selling pelts I'd go with hard cast bullets at lower velocity. Probably means you'd have to plan on shorter shots due to lack of velocity.

As for a 6mm, only ever had one and wouldn't own another. Problem is the length of the case. Mine was a Mod 700 Remington and due to the length of the magazine I could not load bullet's out to were I wanted them, magazine just to short. On the other hand I'm on I think my third 243 and no problem seating bullets out where I want them. I like the bullet just off the lands and seated to the base of the neck. Using 75gr bullet's in them came about as close at possible to doing just that. Of course for saving pelts the 6mm 75gr bullet is a bit tuff on them! Shooting my present 243 at a paper target taped to a Styrofoam frame at 200 yds, those 75gr V-Max bullets were blowing up going through 1" Styrofoam as witnessed by all the blown up jacket material. I'm not all that sure a heavier bullet would help unless the velocity was greatly lowered. Then of course shooting long becomes a problem. I think if I wanted to sell coyote pelts I'd learn to trap and shoot them with either a 22 RF gun or maybe my Mod 16 S&W with heavy cast bullets in 32 Long.

75gr bullet at 4,000 fps? Where ya gonna get that? And if you do barrel life probably wouldn't be so good but the pelts will take a beating also!
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"No cartridge will kill anything any faster than another cartridge. What kills is the shooter's ability to place the bullet he's using in the right spot!"

Yes, bullet placement is critical, but I'm sorry.......the first part of your statement is just plain wrong.
 
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