Smoking on a stand.....

Dropadoglv

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I'm a smoker....1/2 pack a day. But I never have set a stand and lit one up. But my hunt partner smokes like a chimney and always lights one up. I'm used to it after huntin with him consistently for the past 5/6 years. Either good or bad we've managed to kill a hella lot of coyotes/cats. I understand the wind, scent, smell thing all to well. When I'm by myself my stands are no more than 20-25 minutes and I'm usually no farther than 75-100 yds from the truck, so I can wait. Guess he can't? But do anyone else that smokes do this too?
 
when i was still a smoker i used to sit in my deer blind, puffing away while i waited for a deer to come in.

there were seveal years where i would put down my cig, pick up my gun, shoot deer, put gun back down, finish cig and have a cup of coffee, then go field dress it.

i do have an elevated stand i typically hunt from so i'm sure that helped.

i never hunted predators while i was a smoker.
 
Really hard to say, but I will say that we non-smokers can tell you're a smoker from 10-15 feet away when you haven't yet lit one up. I can't imagine how far away a canine can smell it w/o having one lit. Probably won't make much difference either way. C'mon Rick time to stop that nasty habit, lol.
 
Originally Posted By: azmastablastaReally hard to say, but I will say that we non-smokers can tell you're a smoker from 10-15 feet away when you haven't yet lit one up. I can't imagine how far away a canine can smell it w/o having one lit. Probably won't make much difference either way. C'mon Rick time to stop that nasty habit, lol. you are so right! Worst thing, I quite in January and lasted till April.....no excuses, it's a nasty habit!
 
My partner fires up a cigarette towards the end of almost every stand. I wait until we're back at the vehicle and puff on my cigar while driving to the next one. I'm convinced that our combined smoking costs us a coyote here and there. Like someone else said, even "I" can smell us from a distance. It can't help. Doesn't seem to hurt enough to matter to us either though. Put it this way, none of my non-smoking coyote hunting friends do any better than we do in the same areas.

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Can see the Pall Malls in Tim's pocket in this one.

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I really enjoy a good cigar while coyote hunting. Some days, I'm so content just watching the world go by slow over the hood of the Jeep and sipping coffee and smoking a cigar I don't even try to make many stands. Just happy to be there. Especially when I get a few in the truck on the first couple stands, the rest of the day is gravy and I don't hunt too hard.

- DAA
 
Originally Posted By: Dropadoglv you are so right! Worst thing, I quite in January and lasted till April.....no excuses, it's a nasty habit!

i tried 4 times before i succeeded. twice through hypnosis - it was the 2nd round of hypnosis that was the crutch that got me through.


of course, the first time i did the hypnosis i was working as a bartender, so that didnt make things easy to quit. i only made it two weeks that time.

i had a 4 month then relapse when i was in college too.

i smoked for 17 years. i'm glad i dont anymore. i traded my cig money for gun $ and have never been happier
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I hunted with guys that smoked, we slaughtered them. We also used sardines and rabbit urine, and had not had a bath in many days. I am a firm believer in giving yourself any edge you can come up with to get the older dogs. 60% of what you kill are yearlings, start checking their teeth.

When you are able to see your down wind side, you can see a coyote circling. Hunting in thick cover is a real challenge, you just never know when you have spooked one.

Hunting the leading edge of a low pressure front, in the right moon phase, major feeding periods is huge...this is when you can hunt in a Santa Clause suit. We had a barometer in the truck, pressure dropping means hunt, hunt, hunt. Pressure rising means scout, and don't educate them, at least you get to get out of the house.

There is nothing like hunting in an area with a high density coyote population that is not educated. We got into hunting off of gaited horses in Az to get to areas that were not accessible to trucks....we hammered them hard. We would tie up the horses, back off 100 yards or so. I have a spotted saddle horse that would start digging with a front foot when he saw a coyote, he knew that I was about to shoot and he hated gun shots. The coyote would hear him stomping and digging the ground with his front foot, stop and stare, BAM dead coyote. He would start snorting when he smelled Javelina also, they are easy to call in with a coarse hand call, when season is in. "Scout" was like riding a big bird dog, now 33 years old.
 
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Very nice Dave! Building a wall of coyotes so no one else can pass...lol. I remember 25+ years ago or so hunting coyotes with a few of my fathers friends. These guys were some "ole' timers" that would be making stands and smoking too/during/from the stands. And yes, some would be smoking cigars to. But that never stopped them from racking up some crazy numbers! It was quite funny and educating to me watching them puff on their smokes and then start blowing on their calls. Some of them would even shoot while still having a smoke in their mouth. It was something to see....
 
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Im a 1/2 pack to full pack a day smoker (depends on if I'm drinking really) and smoke on stand often, but never from the get go.
Normal thing for me is 20-25 min of serious calling, then maybe some type of howl after which I'll light one up and play no more sounds until I'm done with the smoke. I've had plenty of success after that cigarette and up until the 45 min mark.
 
I don't smoke, but I'm not a "scent watcher" either. Drug dogs can sniff out cocaine in gasoline, so I'm pretty sure that a coyote is going to bust you regardless as soon as he's downwind. If he comes in and can smell the smoke, he can smell the human with it. I'd be more worried that a coyote not in your scent cone would see the hand movement to light up and take drags or the movement of smoke in the air.
 
Originally Posted By: Plant.Onewhen i was still a smoker i used to sit in my deer blind, puffing away while i waited for a deer to come in.

there were seveal years where i would put down my cig, pick up my gun, shoot deer, put gun back down, finish cig and have a cup of coffee, then go field dress it.

That describes my last 40 years of hunting. And have no problem taking 4-6 deer a year.
 
I always say DAA's secret to success is that he uses the smoke of his cigar as a constant monitor of wind direction. I don't really care if the guy I call with takes a bath in old spice, well that is extreme. 2 cases where I want scent mitigation. if there is a 10mph breeze or more I personally think beyond about 300 yards a coyote likely will not be able to smell you down wind in many cases. old spice probably wouldn't help that. The other is probably in a situation with swirling winds. a coyote could come in and have access only to the scent you left as you were walking into the stand. ie the boot prints you made walking in. I say swirling winds as I typically setup my stand so I don't have to worry about the scent from my walking in trail. but swirling winds often change my options for the direction of a coyote to come in from. This very situation probably cost me a yote last fall. I ignored an area down wind from my walk in trail which was almost downwind from my truck as well. sure enough I spotted a dog just as he smelled me for real this time and was bugging out. If I was paying more attention to that area, I would have got him. lots of factors, probably individual smell of that coyote and wind speed.

with all that said I take no precautions to mitigate my scent.
 
Originally Posted By: DesertRamI don't smoke, but I'm not a "scent watcher" either. Drug dogs can sniff out cocaine in gasoline, so I'm pretty sure that a coyote is going to bust you regardless as soon as he's downwind. If he comes in and can smell the smoke, he can smell the human with it. I'd be more worried that a coyote not in your scent cone would see the hand movement to light up and take drags or the movement of smoke in the air.

My thoughts exactly...
 
I smoke and wondered if anyone smoked while hunting. Now I know. LOL. While new to this sport, it seems to me that yotes and other wild game will smell lots of different smells/scents during their day/night roaming around feeding, etc. Some scents may peak their curiosity or tell them of danger.

Some yotes near me have not learned the smells & sounds associated with highway traffic, as I've seen a couple roadkills along the interstate. Been meaning to go talk to some land owners in that area, the yotes must be a bit "challenged" in the learning dept. LOL
 
Personally, it all depends on the wind and on the coyote as well. I smoke but not on stand, I have called with people who smoke on stand and I don't think we've lost out on a ton of chances because of it. I've also called coyote that came right in downwind that had to be able to smell us and they just kept coming. On the other hand I've watched coyotes circle downwind 500 yards or more and got the scent and are in the next county in no time. 3 years ago we called a coyote into literally a foot away and she had no idea we were there until her and my buddy locked eyes about 6" apart (not sure if the coyote or the hunted was more surprised the other was there), the coyote obviously would have smelled us and did not care about us until he moved. Play the wind and hope for dumb coyote I geuss.
 
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We never smoked on a stand but smoked plenty between stands. Our clothes had to reek from tobacco but we killed a [beeep] of a lot of coyotes.

Part of me wants to think that the tobacco, being a natural substance, is like a cover scent. Not sure how a burning smoke would affect them, [beeep].
 
Guys remember, 60% of the coyotes you kill are yearlings...not too smart at times or they get excited and do not use their thinking caps. Older coyote are another issue all together.

In my experience, gasoline on your boots is a lot worse than cigarette or cigar smoke. We made two week trips to Mexico, never bathed the whole time, how do you think we smelled? Maybe they were attracted to us because we smelled like something dead.

Yearlings or uneducated coyotes break all the rules of being sly and cunning. A strange coyote in another's territory will get some really hard charging with half a brain, and so on and so forth.

You stack the chips in your favor the way you want to in order to make the sport enjoyable...part of the fun of hunting.

I hunted with a lot of fellows that smoked, some coyotes busted us, but it was hard to tell if cigs were the cause. I took this one guy that had never been to Mexico, we were really hammering the dogs one night. It was the cigarette smokers turn on the gun. He had 5 on the ground and had to have a smoke, stand still running. He told me he had to have a cigarette, he was so excited that he smoked that cigarette filter first, it kept going out. He had 7 on the ground before he was done with that smoke. It cost us two animals with his repeated lighting the cigarette trying to smoke the filter. He also missed several...big deal, it was his birthday.

I can only remember one hunt where I took a fellow and his small son on a 4 day hunt down Baja Mexico. We were calling in the sand dunes near the beach about 8 hours below the border. I felt like his smoking was costing us some animals, but you can never quite nail it down if a guy can't stay still or has a nagging cough. We still killed 23 with his chain smoking, Swisher Sweet Cigars. I liked the smell of them.

I have seen coyotes bolt at 250 yards as soon as they got our scent while pard was smoking, seen them run right to us at a dead run while a pard was smoking. We teased the pard, that smoked, that some liked menthols and some did not. Pard told us that there were coyotes that love to eat cigarette butts. Hard to beat having a good time, whether or not the coyotes cooperate or not.
 
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