Recording sounds

Yotarunner

Yotarunner

Custom Call Maker
Sitting in my tractor listening to podcasts today and just happened to land on a few interviewing folks who record and market sounds for sale.
What's stirring around in my brain is does anyone know what type of recording devices are used to record coyote sounds?
I have an area right next to home that if a guy could setup a recorder to record for even a few hours a night could possibly get some cool serenade and food fight sounds.
For now we will pretend that editing skills and software as well as background noise are not an issue šŸ˜‚
 
I always made jokes about the guy who makes the rabbits scream. He turns on the recorder and then starts torturing a rabbit. I'm sure that's not actually how it happens, right?

Nobody is tearing rabbits apart with their bare hands for our coyote sounds, right? Guys?
 
I've recorded plenty of jackrabbits. No, I didn't have to torture them. The ones that wanted to be a star, all I had to do was shake the net they were in. A guy I used to know, who has long since passed away, recorded a lot of sounds for Johnny Stewart back in the day. He told me about the shake the net method.

Back in the day, I used a good Sennheiser mic attached to my video camera which recorded in higher quality than the callers of the day were capable of reproducing. I think callers are just now catching up. So I'd think just about any digital recorder would be fine. Later, Foxpro gave me a hi res digital recorder. I bet one of those is pretty cheap these days. But the microphone makes more difference than the recorder. If you are going to spend any money on it, spend it on the microphone. I always used shotgun mics, because that's what I had, for video making. I'm not sure that is necessarily the best choice for recording calling sounds? The ones I recorded have called in thousand upon thousands of coyotes though. About two thousand by myself. Can't even guess at how many more thousands on the many, many Foxpros that had those sounds on them.

Coyote sounds... Eh... If you aren't right there with them, I'm not sure it's worth the bother compared to just downloading coyote sounds like the ones MFK records.

- DAA
 
DAA said:
I've recorded plenty of jackrabbits. No, I didn't have to torture them. The ones that wanted to be a star, all I had to do was shake the net they were in. A guy I used to know, who has long since passed away, recorded a lot of sounds for Johnny Stewart back in the day. He told me about the shake the net method.

Back in the day, I used a good Sennheiser mic attached to my video camera which recorded in higher quality than the callers of the day were capable of reproducing. I think callers are just now catching up. So I'd think just about any digital recorder would be fine. Later, Foxpro gave me a hi res digital recorder. I bet one of those is pretty cheap these days. But the microphone makes more difference than the recorder. If you are going to spend any money on it, spend it on the microphone. I always used shotgun mics, because that's what I had, for video making. I'm not sure that is necessarily the best choice for recording calling sounds? The ones I recorded have called in thousand upon thousands of coyotes though. About two thousand by myself. Can't even guess at how many more thousands on the many, many Foxpros that had those sounds on them.

Coyote sounds... Eh... If you aren't right there with them, I'm not sure it's worth the bother compared to just downloading coyote sounds like the ones MFK records.

- DAA
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That's probably what I assumed a rabbit torturer would say. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£
 
I have recorded a few sounds here and there and a decent digital recorder will do it with a good mic like Dave says. You can clean them up and edit them with an online program like Audacity or any number of similar sites.
Getting good coyote vocals etc is going to require some pet coyotes or coyotes you have access to in some way. Back in the day I had a pair and recorded lots of sounds off of them. Had a little bobcat as well and have some sounds that have slayed a lot of cats over the years from him. I will say do not discount normal puppy dog sounds or house cat/kitten soundsā€¦. Things you would take for grantedā€¦. they work. I am always surprised that more people have not gotten in to this. Itā€™s always seemed like a profitable thing to me?
Just my dos centavos.
 
LONEHOWL said:
I am always surprised that more people have not gotten in to this. Itā€™s always seemed like a profitable thing to me?
Just my dos centavos.
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It paid pretty well when I was doing it. I started out giving my sounds to Foxpro for free. I had registered copyrights on them. But I was giving them to Foxpro for free. When competing caller companies (cough... Minaska... cough... Western Rivers... cough) started using my sounds, without permission, I sold all my copyrights to Foxpro so they could handle the legal crap. Which they did. I sold my sounds to Foxpro after that.

Didn't do it very long, really. The Dillon's got really good at getting their own sounds. I took Steve Dillon out to record sounds a couple of times. No idea how it pays now. But for the few years I was getting paid for them, they did pay well.

- DAA
 
I'll add, if you are hoping to sell them. Get registered copyrights. Register them with the U.S. Copyrights Office. That provides statutory damages. Which means, you don't have to prove damages, just prove copyright violation and the damages are set by statute and severe ($1,000 a day currently I believe). When you need to sick a lawyer on someone, having registered copyright gets their undivided attention immediately.

- DAA
 
Thanks for the info guys! My spot that I'm thinking of is a huge feedlot a mile from where I live. The layout is absolutely terrible for hunting but the coyotes at the dead pile are constantly making all kinds of racket. My theory was if a guy could setup a recorder he could get some decent serenade and food fight type sounds
 
steve garrett said:
I think there is more than enough sounds out there. if I could only ever use 4 sounds for the rest of my life. The coyotes drug back to the truck would be the same as if I had 200 sounds on the caller.
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Not me, if I had to listen to the same 4 sounds forever, I'd be out of this sport. I'm always playing with something new, mixing sounds, stuff like that. It's like I'm the DJ at the club trying to get the chicks to dance.

Here's some AC/DC, it's kryptonite for white women!

That's how I feel when I play any den raid type sound. MFK coyote sounds are so good. Artwork. There's so many different ways to approach a stand. Does it kill more? I say yes, but maybe not, but it makes it so much more interesting.
 
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