Hevi Shot Dead Coyote on sale at Gander Mountain

Originally Posted By: LARUEminatiOriginally Posted By: derbyacresbobFederal Heavyweight shot is 15g/cc density compared the Hevi-Shot that is 12g/cc density. Federal Heavyweight shot is 35% denser than lead and much harder than lead.

The Federal Heavyweight 12 ga 3" Coyote BB loads have 12 more pellets per shell than the Hevi-Shot 12 ga 3" Dead Coyote T shot loads have.



Judging by this statement you'd take the Federal heavyweight BB over the Hevi-Shot Dead-Coyote T? Tough to find reviews, and/or people that use the Federal load so it's good to hear some first hand knowledge.

I've been interested in pattern testing the Federal Heavyweight but no one local to me sells it. In the field dropping down to a BB from T shot i'd think i'd lose some effective killing range, and i've been downright impressed with how far i've made some kills with the hevi-shot. Do you think the Federal BB is as effective at range as the T shot?

I do shoot the #2 goose load for fox & bobcat to meet my local regs, they do shoot well and pattern dense but I haven't shot a coyote with them yet.



The Federal Heavyweight shot 15g/cc is way better than Hevi-Shot 12g/cc. 12g/cc shot has always been advertised as 10% denser than lead the Federal Heavyweight shot is advertised as 35% denser than lead.

The Federal Heavyweight BB pellet will out perform the Hevi-Shot T shot pellet even at long yardage just comparing one pellet to the other pellet because of the much higher density of the Federal pellet. Since the Federal Coyote load has 62 pellets in each shell compared to 50 T pellets in the Hevi-Shot DC load I would much rather shoot the Federal BB load if the price is close to being the same.

I lucked out and bought some Federal Heavyweight Coyote BB loads when Midway USA had them on sale for right at $3.00 per shell.

If you have some of the Fedral Heavyweight #2 shot loads try them on coyotes just to see what happens.

One of the first coyotes I shot with Federal Heavyweight #2 shot was running away from me at about 35 yards. When I shot the coyote it was running straight away from me, it flipped over and died right there. When I walked up to that coyote I was really surprised by what I saw. At least three Federal Heavyweight #2 shot pellets hit the coyote in the back of the head and exited out the coyotes face. There was brain blood running out of the coyotes face. That was the first time I have ever seen pellet holes in a coyotes face that were exit holes.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2622417
Check out the above thread. This guy used one of my Federal Heavyweight #2 shot 3" 1-1/2 oz re-loads. I try not to shoot at coyotes over 50 yards away.

I have always preferred Rem Wingmaster HD BB shot over Hevi-Shot T shot or the Remington Wingmaster Predator T shot because of the increased pellet count you get with the Rem Wingmaster HD BB shot.

The Rem HD BB shot breaks bones like crazy and really penetrates way deeper than lead BB shot does. So I like sending 70 deadly pellets everytime I pull the trigger instead of Hevi-Shot DC that has 50 deadly pellets.

I don't like lead #2 shot at all for coyotes. Rem HD #2s or Winchester Xtended Range #2s that are both 12g/cc do a good job on coyotes up to around 40 yards or a little farther.

The Federal Heavyweight #2 shot smokes coyotes. It is ubelievable how heavy the Federal Heavyweight shot is per pellet. The 3" 12 ga Federal Heavyweight 1-1/4 oz 1450 fps #2 shot loads have 78 pellets in each shell. It's to bad they are no longer being made.

I took the shot out of a bunch of those Federal Heavyweigh 3" factory loads and loaded up 3" 12 ga 1-1/2 oz loads that have right at 90 pellets per shell


 
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Well I guess i'll be trying out that Federal BB load this year. I was planning on switching to 3-1/2" Hevi-Shot T, up from 3.00" but that BB load does sound appealing. Not that I've had any issues with my current 3" T loads, i'm just the type always looking for improvement.
 
Originally Posted By: Josh PearsonIt's on sale with free shipping. Best price on it I have ever seen and thought I would share it with my fellow Predator Masters.

Gander Mountain



That is not much of a savings over normal price. As for the cheapest you have seen, I have some boxes marked $28. The current price is why I wont buy it any more.
 
Originally Posted By: reb8600Originally Posted By: Josh PearsonIt's on sale with free shipping. Best price on it I have ever seen and thought I would share it with my fellow Predator Masters.

Gander Mountain



That is not much of a savings over normal price. As for the cheapest you have seen, I have some boxes marked $28. The current price is why I wont buy it any more.

I can't speak for the past prices. However if you look around online most places are charging $52-60 per box for the 3.5" T shot. So Gander Mountains price is anywhere from 8%-20% off. Then once you factor in the free shipping which typically costs between $10-$15 I think it's actually a substantial savings.
 
Found these are my local farm & ranch store. Are they the Remington HD BB you were referring to derbyacresbob?

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I'm not Bob, but that is the load I settled on when I started the sticky thread in the Firearms forum. Been shooting it on all sorts of critters for how ever many years now and it's fantastic. Dam-n Remington for discontinuing it!!
 
I hunted a fair bit with bearmanric at the last hunt & he started out using this stuff. After several non-kills that required multiple followups & finishing shots (none taken at long range, I think the longest was maybe 20 yards at most), he switched to real buckshot. I was super impressed with it. I mean, I was REAL impressed that I couldn't see myself ever using it after seeing that first hand.
 
Stu, You talking DC T shot non-kills ?
If so, it's a patterning/shooter issue. DC T will shred stuff like a wood chipper under 30 yards, when propery choked.


I will say it's not worth what they charge these days.
 
Well, id have to ask you experts if youve ever tried it. Theres a reason they dont sell turkey loads during snow goose season. Its very effective. To me, major damage is a kill shot, no coyotes arent bionic - i hunt coyotes by canada and central MN. some of the biggest dogs in the US. we see some over 45 lbs every year. Some 3 inch turkey loads do me well at that distance, so ill save my money rather than buy for the marketing that dead coyote and their pheasant counterpart bs loads put out. No coyote or pheasant is worth blowing that kinda dough on
 
Stu, one of two things is most likely responsible for the Hevi-Shot DC performance you experienced. Most probably whoever failed to pattern the shotgun, choke and load. Shotguns aren't the simple blasters many think they are. Shotguns are quirky, good fit is critical to hitting with a shotgun otherwise the gun probably isn't throwing the pattern where the shooter is actually looking. It's a point of aim vs. point of impact problem. Much of the time that is a result of poor gun fitting to the shooter. Sometimes it's mis threaded chokes, or just simply a bad combination that won't pattern together. That stuff has to be worked out on the range before heading out hunting.

Now the other thing is that occasionally Environ Metal screws with the shot formula and has at times produced very brittle pellets that disintegrated upon hitting bone. I have reliable reports of guys requiring multiple shots at modest ranges to kill coyotes and upon skinning found grey dust in the muscle tissue. These runs of ammo seem to have been short lived but they have happened and the brittle mix shot shells made it to the stocking dealers for purchase by consumers.
 
Coyotes. If it does kill them, they are at least blinded. And yes, slickerthansnot, i do have the experience of shooting dogs with it, no ive never used DC. dont have to with a 28 inch barrel on a fixed full choke. It patterns very solid, ill keep using it. Not sure if you use the same turkey load as i do but lead or plated BB has layed dogs in the snow for me time and time again
 
GC, I've had a few of those brittle ones. Also had exits on coyotes at 60-70 yards, with others.

Once my stash is gone..that will be it.

I still run Fed plated 4 bk at my go to,however. Would like to revist the pattern board with some diff chokes ,if I could find some to try without paying retail.
 
no idea how much rick worked with it, just that it sucked at ranges so close you simply wouldn't expect a problem. at $4 or so per shell, coyotes get pretty costly when you have to shoot them 2 & 3 times plus put a pistol round in them to boot.
 
Originally Posted By: GCWhat turkey load and how does it pattern?

I still have the box somewhere but i believe it was a federal product i bought on clearance. It was my 5th shot in the gun for late season early flushing roosters too. Sniper stuff. Had it in 4 shot and BB. i know one of my buddies said it patterened too tight with turkeys when they were close, but to me theres no such thing as a too tight pattern. It stayed size of truck tire out to 45 - 50 which was sweet!
 
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