Differences in calling black bears vs coyotes

Newpond0

Newpond0

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I am trying to get a black bear for the freezer, that’s why I took up calling. Coyotes are just practice for me to get better and calling and hunting in general. Some obvious differences would be it’s pointless to setup on a bend in a trail trying to shoot coyotes coming around the corner head on if I’m practicing for bears because I’m not gonna be doing that to a bear. The one bear I called in I believe took an extremely wide circle on me behind cover and winded me after seeing him charge down the mountain to lightning Jack a few hundred yards in the distance.

Any other major differences you guys care to share?

-My sets are 1 hour long and I wait another 20 minutes quiet and still after turning off the call.

-Another example cub distress may be a great call during spring bear mating season although I didn’t have any luck with it last year.

-I have also read territorial sounds may not work especially if there’s a lot of food around as bears supposedly aren’t territorial so much.

-Another would be follow the rype food sources available at the time and call nearby as they are always on the move eating.
 
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Have you searched the forum for posts by Bearmanric? He's not around here much any more, but historically he had a lot to say about calling black bears.
 
DesertRam said:
Have you searched the forum for posts by Bearmanric? He's not around here much any more, but historically he had a lot to say about calling black bears.
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Yes I did. I went thru his messages thru his profile. Same with Okanogan and Redfrog. Some great bear hunters used to be here. Not all the messages appear though, I think just 20 pages for some reason. Forum changeover didn’t save everything?

Edit: I was tempted to copy and paste a bunch of their stuff into 1 big thread. There’s a lot of old threads with 1-3 really good posts in them, but nothing like the 1 big thread in calling in the east with Jimmy in KY and Rich Cronk (calling tactics and sounds?)

Maybe I will start a new all encompassing calling bears thread and do some copy and pasting
 
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The major difference for me is I call coyotes on purpose. The one and only black bear I've called was on accident while trying to call coyotes.

- DAA
 
Not a bear hunter but did go bear hunting once. A bear had been raising havoc at a friend's resort in N. MN and I was asked to shoot it. I spent a week watching the dump pit morning and night, never saw the bear or fired a shot. I was successful, the bear never came back. Caught a lot of walleyes and northerns during the day, fun week.

There was a pretty interesting CD someone put out on bear calling, Wayne Carlton, "They Come to Eat".

Bearmanric, used to put on bear calling seminars. I know at least one was recorded, I don't know if the .recording still exists, it was 2011 at Cabela's in Lacey, WA.
 
AWS said:
Not a bear hunter but did go bear hunting once. A bear had been raising havoc at a friend's resort in N. MN and I was asked to shoot it. I spent a week watching the dump pit morning and night, never saw the bear or fired a shot. I was successful, the bear never came back. Caught a lot of walleyes and northerns during the day, fun week.

There was a pretty interesting CD someone put out on bear calling, Wayne Carlton, "They Come to Eat".

Bearmanric, used to put on bear calling seminars. I know at least one was recorded, I don't know if the .recording still exists, it was 2011 at Cabela's in Lacey, WA.
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I would love to hear bearmanrics recording and am going to try find it! I also posted the Wayne Carlton dvd in the all encompassing calling bears thread in the lions, bear and houndsmen section. Wayne posted it himself on his YouTube channel
 
I found a piece of that seminar. If anyone has the full and you think bearmanric would be ok with posting it please post



Also can a mod please move this thread to the lions, bears, and houndsmen section? At the time I didn’t realize that’s where the calling bears stuff belongs not in the big game section
 
I've got some of Rick's calls, and they definitely work! The only real tip I can give is; call where the bears are. You need to lace up your boots, and do a lot of scouting before you start calling. Sorry I don't have the "recipe" to call them in consistently. For me anyway, they come when they come.
 
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I've got some of Rick's calls, and they definitely work! The only real tip I can give is; call where the bears are. You need to lace up your boots, and do a lot of scouting before you start calling. Sorry I don't have the "recipe" to call them in consistently. For me anyway, they come when they come.
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I think that’s a great tip about the scouting and I ended up coming to the same conclusion at the end of last year. I had the idea to scout and call at the same time and I was a complete rookie at both. I was scouting for roads online that go deep into the woods and then driving up there, looking for scats on the road, driving past the scats and parking to walk back into the wind of them and calling the open areas near the sign.

I never really did proper scouting beforehand and this year I’m gonna go in there for full day hikes getting farther off the road looking for sign, food sources, water sources near thick cover, going thru the trails and figuring out my access options, figuring out the winds I need, my setup spots in advance and how to to get to them from where I park, taking pictures and notes, marking spots on the map, and so on. I’m not even gonna call, but invest days in being much more ready to call it right later or when the winds are right.
 
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