Co2 Barrel Cooler test results.

Furhunter

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I had been thinking about a barrel cooler for some time. Water down the barrel and a cold wet rag over the barrel sounds all good but dont want the moisture on these nice pretty Cooper stocks /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I want something to help in the heat this time of year when out load testing or PD shooting. Yes, Having multiple rifles with you on a hunt is the trick, but what if you only have one rifle, or want to test loads for one rifle.

I went down to the local welding supply store and picked up a 5LB Co2 bottle, a rebuilt oxy regulator and 8' of green hose, out the door for 151 bucks, and with my trusty digital meat thermometers I was off to the range.

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The green Hose was a nice snug fit to the Sinclair bore guide I was useing.
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The testing was done with my Savage BVSS in 223. Temp outside was 90deg and warming up fast. The shooting was done at the range under the covered firing line...in the shade.

A 5 shot string will warm up the barrel to 104 deg.
After taking the temp which took about 3 minutes, I added another 5 shots and the barrel was at 113 deg. This feels warm, another 5 shots later the temp was at 118. The barrel to me felt to hot to shoot any longer at around the 118 to 120 mark.

I set the rifle in the shade, action open with the small probe in the breech end of the rifle, slid up to the hottest part of the barrel just past the throat area. It took the rifle the better part of 30 minutes to cool back down to 94 deg.

I placed the rifle back on the bench and fired 18 rounds of some fodder stuff I have had laying around, point was to get it hot again, didnt matter how many rounds it took. well I took the temp after the 18 rounds and it was 126 deg.

I placed the rifle in the stand, pulled the bolt out and replaced it with the bore guide and Co2 attached. I gave it a 30 second run of Co2 @ 5psi, temp was down to 111 deg.

Another 30 seconds worth and it was down to 101 deg.
Another 30 seconds and it was 95 deg.

I cooled the barrel from 126 to 95 with 90 seconds of Co2 at 5psi.

So you all know at 5psi the Co2 is cool but not cold as it would be at 20 psi or so, the faster you run the Co2 the colder it gets. I dont want to frost the barrel just cool it down faster. I know this will be a big help on the 204 as it heats up faster than the 223, and should be handy at the range on those hot days. The only thing left to do is figure out how many "coolings" you can get from the 5lb bottle. You can also get 10's and 20's, if this one proves to have a short life then I will prolly goto the 10lb bottle, I dont want the hassles of a larger bottle than that. It only costs 3 dollars more to fill a 10lb than the 5, but it was 20 to 25 dollars more to buy, and they didnt have them in stock, would have had to order one, It was 5 or 20, so I took the 5lb. They will give me full credit if I want the larger bottle later on. I have also found the bottles and some regulators online, but the money savings, and service wasnt enough to steer me away from the local supply house. I hope this is some help to those thinking about it.
 
That's a great write-up with comprehensive explainations and pictures!

Good job! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Barry
 
Thats a sweet setup. I bet 5lb will last a very long time. You ould buy a CO2 tank for paintball they have them in 9oz, 12oz, 24oz. I bet a 24oz would last all day at the range or PD town. You can fill the PB tanks off your 5lb tank for more portability. I'm curious to see how long it really does last, I'm just speculating but basing it on number of shots fired per tank paintballing. Did you have enough cooling/expansion to get any condensation? I'd want to know where that starts happening. Love to see guys tinkering, keep us posted as you fine tune.

peace.
unloaded
 
Good work Darby! You may have changed my mind.

Further, after shooting hours, if your brew gets warm and/or goes flat, the outfit could serve double duty!

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Hey Darby, in looking at your setup a bit longer I think the medical community has been using something like this for years.

You know, CO2 enemas!

Sorry, my mind wanders at times!

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Hey Darby, in looking at your setup a bit longer I think the medical community has been using something like this for years.

You know, CO2 enemas!

Sorry, my mind wanders at times!

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Is that for treating hemorrhoids or what??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

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Is that for treating hemorrhoids or what??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

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Could be, it might just relieve that burning sensation! You know, "barrel cooling".

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Did you have enough cooling/expansion to get any condensation? I'd want to know where that starts happening. Love to see guys tinkering, keep us posted as you fine tune.




After the full 90 seconds the bottom of the tank was just starting to frost up a bit. The hose was on the cool side but not cold. Honestly I didnt run a patch down the bore because I forget it at home, but I did have my hand at the end of the barrel and there was no moisture or really cold air exiting the barrel. I will patch it next time out. I really dont think much more fine tuning is needed. I wouldnt goto a smaller bottle, this 5 pounder is small enough pictured here with the coffee pot.

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I am afraid a small one would go thru the Co2 too fast. The tank pressure on the 5lb bottle is close to 500 psi, if it sets in the sun the pressure does rise a bit because of expansion, but goes back down quick when using it.
 
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Could be, it might just relieve that burning sensation! You know, "barrel cooling".

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Would have been handy after eatin those beans you made at the last campout!!
 
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Looks like Darby is fix'in to make RITA'S !!!
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Maybe he could adapt a wheelchair as a calling/shooting stool. Strap a couple of those babies on the back, and fool the newbies at the next WW shoot into giving him a prefered parking spot.........
 
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The trouble with the lo-tech water bottle is, you can't put a loose, bulk bullet in the chamber, and shoot the close ones as you cool the barrel with a hi-pressure blast of co2. Maybe try one of them super-soaker models to boost the multi-funtional aspect of the water model?.....
 
Those pictures are my cooling method. I didn't dream it up, ackleyman told me about it several years ago and he'd been using one for years before that.

The valve thing with hose and all is actually for a motor oil bottle. Also fits a water bottle. Cost at WalMart either $2.99 or $3.99, can't remember. Water is free once you have a bottle. The nozzle fits perfectly into the back of a Sinclair cleaning rod guide. A heavy barrel goes from hot to the touch to cool in about 10 seconds. A 1/4" dia hole will only pass so much water when it's powered by gravity. It only takes about 4- 5oz of water to cool the barrel. A couple dry patches through the bore and the gun is ready to shoot again. All done in about a minute or so. Water does not hurt the bore.
 
i have a few paint ball tanks i take with me to the range
i have 2- 18 oz tanks
with a valve and hose hooked up to it
i just put the hose over end of bbl and turn it on for a min it works well
i like the bigger tank better though
 
I wounder with the water bottle if you could use motor oil instead of water? and recycle and collect from the muzzle and re-run mmmmm? might try that now you guys got me thinking and that dangerest!!
 
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I'd rather clean the bore from water than motor oil....



Either one will leave dents in your cases if you don't dry-patch the chamber. That would be my concern. I can also state that 120 degrees is nowhere near hot for a rifle barrel. If the POI is shifting as it gets that hot, that's a different story.
You can run an M-60 until the oil smokes off the barrel without hurting it any. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 


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