Caller sounds to stop a runner

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no miss Mike

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Not as green as most but still pretty damn green......
Been watching a few videos on the subject, and a hunter will call in a coyote, it sees hears or smells something it doesn't like and we'll turn and go back the way it came. You can hear them in the video hollerin, howling just making sound to get that dog to stop what are good sounds to be able to play.... nomad+(plus) I want the caller to make that Coyote Turn around and/or stop. thank you for your time in advance
 
Good question, I know the FoxPros have the FoxBang feature, my Foxpro Inferno Foxbang feature starts the female howl sound. I thought it was supposed to start the pup distress sound.

Coyote around me are always close, moving and on high alert. I bark at them with my mouth... that seems to work half the time, when im lucky.

But I sure know if a coyote is in front of me running around, I dont have the remote in my hands, theres no way I could fumble with the rifle and foxpro remote with a coyote under 100 yards in the open.

I few sounds I would try to stop them if I was relying on an Ecaller would be pup distress, female challenge, female howl. Or just yell a bark at them.
 
Nothing is 100%, and a lot is going to depend on just how spooked that coyote is. You mentioned sees, hears and smells you as being the reason it's going away. Sees or hears you, there may be a chance to stop it. Smells you... highly unlikely!

Anyway, anything from lip squeaks to howling can stop them sometimes. Most will bark/woof at them. Pup distress and kiyi can get them to check up often for a shot. Under pressure, after a shot I go into loud kiyi on a mouth diaphragm or pup distress on my caller. Foxpro Pup3 is a well known killer sound.
 
If you find it, don't not tell anyone.

There is an army of hunters out there trying to kill coyotes day and night and the coyote is still expanding its range. They are unpredictable, that's why there are hundreds of sounds for sale out there.

Depending on what spooked them and how spooked they got can have a influence on how they react. I've missed coyotes that ran off and returned three times and killed him on the third shot, with the same sound that I left running. Then I've had one turn around and come back twice changing sounds. Lots come back once changing sounds. Some will run so far and look back to see what spooked them. Surprise, kiyis and barks or curiosity, changing prey sounds will do it. One sound that does it .most of the time I don't know. That's why we have so many sounds to bring them in in the first place
 
Thank you for the quick replies. I appreciate it, never really messed with the fox pros seams like peeking their curiosity loud enough, they can hear it. Is a good start I was thinking something like raccoon fight, it's completely out of the normal of something. I would be playing at this current moment in the season, with it being breeding season i'm pretty sure the pup distress.It's gonna be a good one 2 play on parental instincts
 
I'm in newkent va there are massive fields where the longest shot could be 600+ then there's 60yd fields,swamps an treelines they run i'm pretty sure it's all situational, and gaining The experience will help more than anything

Any sound sequences to call them in yall have found that work for you,And your situations?? just trying to build a baseline of what works for the masses some of the time šŸ˜„
 
In my experience, you donā€™t have time to pick a sound on your remote to get a running coyote to stop. Iā€™ve had mixed, but mostly good results using my voice to bark or howl.
 
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no miss Mike said:
I'm in newkent va there are massive fields where the longest shot could be 600+ then there's 60yd fields,swamps an treelines they run i'm pretty sure it's all situational, and gaining The experience will help more than anything

Any sound sequences to call them in yall have found that work for you,And your situations?? just trying to build a baseline of what works for the masses some of the time šŸ˜„
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I like to switch it up, and in pressured places it can be important to switch up. Coyotes can learn and figure YOU out is what I have determined. Years ago I spent a lot of time hunting in the same spots and of course things got much quieter, they would stay in the weeds and never come in the open, they would stop howling back whether I used Foxpro or hand calls. Half the time I hunted alone and half the time a buddy came alone, I had the Foxpro and handcalls so I would do the calling and set things up. Later my buddy got his own calls and wanted to learn to handcall but he sounded like crap, at least what I though, but sure enough, his pathetic whimperings and raspy howls would get responses in places I had pressured the heck out of and stopped getting any reply.

Same with my new location but the shoe is on the other foot. I bought land further north, my neighbor calls and traps coyotes and has long before I got up here. He uses handcalls and a Foxpro and gets no replys any more. My first two stands up here were first on my property then he let me go to the back of his place and call, both stands with the same Foxpro my neighbor has and I was so surrounded by coyotes that I was busted and thats the last they have shown up for me here in years...

Even the same with bait piles. My neighbor sets and traps baitpiles with roadkill, I just set out my first roadkill down in my woods Christmas day and the coyotes have been all over it. 100 yards away on my neighbors property and the coyotes wont go to roadkill....

Change is everything in my opinion, along with sneaking in and not geting winded.

My routine I use maybe too often, I like to start with a quite rabbit distress, just play 10 seconds of it. Then I go to a female interrogation howl followed by pup distress. But like I say, I like to switch up from that as much as possible.
 
Rock Knocker said:
I like to switch it up, and in pressured places it can be important to switch up. Coyotes can learn and figure YOU out is what I have determined. Years ago I spent a lot of time hunting in the same spots and of course things got much quieter, they would stay in the weeds and never come in the open, they would stop howling back whether I used Foxpro or hand calls. Half the time I hunted alone and half the time a buddy came alone, I had the Foxpro and handcalls so I would do the calling and set things up. Later my buddy got his own calls and wanted to learn to handcall but he sounded like crap, at least what I though, but sure enough, his pathetic whimperings and raspy howls would get responses in places I had pressured the heck out of and stopped getting any reply.

Same with my new location but the shoe is on the other foot. I bought land further north, my neighbor calls and traps coyotes and has long before I got up here. He uses handcalls and a Foxpro and gets no replys any more. My first two stands up here were first on my property then he let me go to the back of his place and call, both stands with the same Foxpro my neighbor has and I was so surrounded by coyotes that I was busted and thats the last they have shown up for me here in years...

Even the same with bait piles. My neighbor sets and traps baitpiles with roadkill, I just set out my first roadkill down in my woods Christmas day and the coyotes have been all over it. 100 yards away on my neighbors property and the coyotes wont go to roadkill....

Change is everything in my opinion, along with sneaking in and not geting winded.

My routine I use maybe too often, I like to start with a quite rabbit distress, just play 10 seconds of it. Then I go to a female interrogation howl followed by pup distress. But like I say, I like to switch up from that as much as possible.
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The place that I am hunting, the guy that manages it for deer hunting traps all of the "dumb" pups first, he had made the suggestion of getting gut piles and then trying to pattern them. Once I figured out the pattern set up on them with red lights and as soon as the pack comes in, turn the lights on, put them down. That was his suggestions, but he's had another guy out there.Doing a lot of "hunting" so I was going to use an e-caller and set up on the outskirts of where that has been going on an on the towers overlooking the swamps where the dogs run the thicket line... hope that's a successful plan lol
 
The coyotes around here have visited my bait pile 2 or 3 times a week and they may be spending less than an hour there at a time, and its not whole packs visiting it at once. I think 1 night I had 2 or 3 visit, every other night has only been a single coyote.

If you plan on waiting around and shooting a coyote that visits bait, you are going to have a lot of sleepless nights. Even with a bait pile I can see out my front door, ive found out its not going to be easy shooting a coyote on it.
 
Rock Knocker said:
The coyotes around here have visited my bait pile 2 or 3 times a week and they may be spending less than an hour there at a time, and its not whole packs visiting it at once. I think 1 night I had 2 or 3 visit, every other night has only been a single coyote.

If you plan on waiting around and shooting a coyote that visits bait, you are going to have a lot of sleepless nights. Even with a bait pile I can see out my front door, ive found out its not going to be easy shooting a coyote on it.
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Like on a previous post under this thread, somebody had mentioned them being able to pattern, you i don't think it's smart nor going to be as successful. As switching it up-and-doing something different. I'm going to Punt them. Traditionally, with an e collar and a couple of mouth calls closed reed design.
a lot of callMaker's say that is the easiest to learn first and i'm not completely reliant one the electronic call
 
1.)kiyi/pup distress pretty loud 2.) single howl or two if you must use your ecall. The best answer is to learn how to make these sounds with a diaphragm and always have one in your mouth-instant response time that you can change sounds if the first doesn't work plus concentrate on the gun. Sounds DO NOT need to be perfect!
And as AWS said, nothing is full proof!!
 
Im sure they can be patterned, thats what im trying to do now, im new to it. I thought it would be easier to find them on the bait. Mine show up around 4am but I havent figured out any rhyme or reason to what days they show up. A camera would help a lot, I dont have a camera up, if I had one of those that emailed when a picture was taken, if i could find a way to set an email alarm over night i could just wake up and walk out the door and see them.
 
Never a rhym or reason for the most part...

If the yote is layed out straight chances are he won't stop and he gets a pass and I hope he stops.
...if the head is up and he's has that "trot" chances are he will stop on own.
If there are multiples they generally will check up on each other- like hey sumpn up, and we'll assess situation- I may tap the remote to get the Foxbang going or have a sound muted ready to go..
 
If they get spooked for whatever reason in my experience they'll lope a ways then stop and take a look around by themselves. Not always but that's where calling enough coyotes in to learn their body language comes into play. If they don't look like they'll stop I bark with my mouth so they will. If that doesn't work I try it again. If that doesn't work I shoot them. You don't want to still be barking when they're 300 yards out there. I don't anyways. If you can hit them when they're out there a ways you don't have to. For myself I'd rather shoot a moving coyote 100 yards away than a coyote standing out there past 300 yards. But that's my preference.
 
On an ecaller probably pup distress/howl mix, on an open reed howler or diapragm I like a half ass howl/warning bark type sound.
Honestly though, I love shooting runnersā€¦and if they flatten out to run, Iā€™m going to shoot them. Not messing around with any sounds. My percentage of shooting them on the run successfully vs feeling around or looking down for a remote button or hand call is high.
 
limbhanger10 said:
Never a rhym or reason for the most part...

If the yote is layed out straight chances are he won't stop and he gets a pass and I hope he stops.
...if the head is up and he's has that "trot" chances are he will stop on own.
If there are multiples they generally will check up on each other- like hey sumpn up, and we'll assess situation- I may tap the remote to get the Foxbang going or have a sound muted ready to go..
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That's what I'm going to do. I've got a second favorites button and the first one on it is ki-yi yes, full sprint. I'm sure he's not stopping no matter what I do.But that trot should have a pretty good chance of getting them stopped
 
I'm just gonna have to learn how to do it. Vocally cannot use a diaphragm, even though I've tryed a bunch with turkeys. I wrecked a dirt bike some years back and my top and bottom jaw and teeth are all cadiver and beef, bone, titanium and porcelain i just cannot freaking use them as much as I want to. And tried for 2 seasons
 
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