204 ruger vs 22-250

Originally Posted By: NDtrapper97Can I get it done with the savage axis? Or would it pay to buy a better rifle?

The only way paying more than the Axis would "pay" is if it makes you feel good to pay more. Otherwise, the Axis is a shooter that will get the job done with groups that are unbelieveable considering the cost.

I have an Axis in .223 and one in .22-250. Because I shoot p-dogs, I run over a thousand rounds out of each in the course of a year. I certainly could (and do) own far more expensive rifles than the Axis, but I see absolutely no point in trashing high dollar guns by blazing away at oversized rodents.

Watch the sales. I picked up my Axis .22-250 stainless for $279. I splashed out for the drop-in Rifle Basix trigger for $89. So for
 
I agree. I for one don't own a axis. But I Know several friends that do. Awesome shooters for the price.
 
Savage is a good gun shoot good too. Some of my friends have them too. I would like to shoot a ruger 22 250 with the 1@10 twist barrel. I have 2 22 250's 1 tikka 1 TC. I just got a 204 in a TC venture havent put a scope on it yet. I have shot my buddy's 204 I like my 22 250 the best. I got the 204 for fox and bobcats. The hornady superp. Ammo the 50 gr v max says 4000 fps in the 22 250. I have killed a lot of stuff with my 22 250. Filled many doe tags and killed some nice bucks too. The 22 250 is a all around good gun. Can't wait to try the 204 out on fox and cats.
 
Originally Posted By: varmit_master Can't wait to try the 204 out on fox and cats.

You may be a little disappointed with the results, especially on the fox.
 
Originally Posted By: CoyotejunkiOriginally Posted By: varmit_master Can't wait to try the 204 out on fox and cats.

You may be a little disappointed with the results, especially on the fox.

Yeah... and cats too. The 204 bullets bounce off of cats at 200 yards. I read it on the internet, and you can't put anything on the internet that is not true
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Originally Posted By: CatShooterOriginally Posted By: CoyotejunkiOriginally Posted By: varmit_master Can't wait to try the 204 out on fox and cats.

You may be a little disappointed with the results, especially on the fox.

Yeah... and cats too. The 204 bullets bounce off of cats at 200 yards. I read it on the internet, and you can't put anything on the internet that is not true
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And now the secrets out. Way to go CatShooter.
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Ya, you are going to be disappointed with the 204 shooting Fox and Cats if you plan keeping the pelts.
 
It goes like this.

17 WSM (King of rimfire) for cheap 200 yard. Ammo is 10.00 box
.204 ruger - fastest factory center-fire. Smooth shooting no recoil and hits hard. Can do 32 to 45gr. Factory ammo is deadly accurate and can be had for 22.00 box of 50 in 32 or 40gr. No need to spend the cash on reloading stuff.

243 - if you need to hit a little harder.

In the spirit of a comparison post, such as the trajectory comparison, I have computed the wind drift at 400 yards caused by a 10 mph cross wind. All the calculations were carried out with the PointBlank ballistics program at 5000 ft, 70 degrees. I used the published ballistic coefficients from the various bullet manufactures (BC).

Bullet Weight/Type BC Cartridge Name Velocity 400 yd 10 MPH wind Drift
39gr Sierra Blitzking 0.287 .204 Ruger 3750 11.5"
40gr Hornady Vmax 0.275 .204 Ruger 3900 11.5"
40gr Nosler BT 0.239 .204 Ruger 3750 14.3"
32gr Hornady Vmax 0.210 .204 Ruger 4225 14.5"
40gr Fiocchi vmax 0.275 .204 Ruger 3700 12.3"

40gr Sierra Blitzking 0.196 .223 Rem 3700 18.6"
40gr Hornady Vmax 0.200 .223 Rem 3700 18.2"
40gr Nosler BT 0.221 .223 Rem 3700 16.0"

40gr Sierra Blitzking 0.196 .220 Swift 4250 15.6"
40gr Hornady Vmax 0.200 .220 Swift 4250 15.2"
40gr Nosler BT 0.221 .220 Swift 4250 13.5"

40gr Sierra Blitzking 0.196 .22-250 Rem 4150 16.1"
40gr Nosler BT 0.221 .22-250 Rem 4150 13.9"
40gr Hornady Vmax 0.200 .22-250 Rem 4150 15.7"
55gr Sierra Blitzking 0.237 .22-250 Rem 3680 14.8"
55gr Nosler BT 0.267 .22-250 Rem 3680 12.8"

So, it looks like once again the .204 lays waste to the competition! For some reason, all the "250" shooters I know think that their 55gr loads have "way less" wind drift than my .204, but from the above, I didn't find any load that had less wind drift.
 
Like an inch difference in drift at 400 makes a pizz worth of difference to anything on a coyote stand...

And I notice he didn't include the better .204 coyote bullets either. Lessee those numbers for the 35 Berger,
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. A terminal lung cancer patient could blow one of those off course with a good exhale. Or the 45 Hornady, stubbly little bastage of a bullet that it is.

Not that it makes any difference on called coyote though.

- DAA
 
Originally Posted By: Tim NeitzkeOriginally Posted By: NDtrapper97Can I get it done with the savage axis? Or would it pay to buy a better rifle?

It always pays to buy better.

For about $100 more than a axis you can get a whole lot more rifle. I think there's even better rifles for the same or less than the cost of an axis too
 
NDtrapper97 said:
Looking to buy my first coyote gun. Have been looking up on the 22-250's for awhile now but just learned of the 204 ruger. What are the differences between the two ballistic wise? Pro's and con's? Thanks for helping!
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I have one dedicated varmint rifle, Tikka tx3, Compact Model..22-250… I have had a great time with this caliber and rifle. I even kill deer with it when I want to. I took up hand loading 11years ago and enjoy the process.I use this short barrel model, 20 inch, for a couple of reasons, 1. Easy to carry 2. Handles in close quarters… All rifles have there good and bads,, Tikka works for me… 22-250, 53-55 grain bullets, h380, Varget…work for me…Lots of good info ..
 
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Never understood why people don’t think you can see your hits with a 250? I’ve never had that problem. Maybe it’s the way they are shooting? To me the 250 is a small cartridge, you shouldn’t have any trouble doing that … every time.
 
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Never understood why people don’t think you can see your hits with a 250? I’ve never had that problem. Maybe it’s the way they are shooting? To me the 250 is a small cartridge, you shouldn’t have any trouble doing that … every time.
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I didn't read the whole post, have you shot a 20 cal? Its just different. For an all arounder a 250 is a great round. A 204 is also a great round. I tend to interchange them. A 50ish gr bullet anchors better at 300+, than a 35. I wish somebody made a really good 40 gr 204 bullet, and maybe they do and i just haven't found it. Recoil on a 204 is just different. Seems closer to a 22 than a centerfire. 22-250 is certainly still fully visible in a scope and really shouldnt move from center.
 
Have handled several 20 caliber setups. Yes I understand the difference but my point was I’ve seen lots of guy over the years complain that the recoil of a 250 is so great that they can’t see bullet strikes… I’ve just never had a problem with that.
 
I think a 22-250 @ 12lbs with a break will let you see your hits but that isn't what I want to carry. I want a lite weight gun with a can and a 204 will let me see my hits better than a lite 22-250. At 75 weight matters to me. If shots were going to be over 300 yds I would carry my 22-250 AI.
 
All of my 22 250 calling rifles are simple sporter weights. No suppressors or brake. I shoot with both eyes open, always see my hits whether it’s one shot or shooting multiples or chasing runners don’t matter.
Not trying to poo poo anyone here… just my experience over 35 + years of calling.
 
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