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OKRattler

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I picked up a Remington model 11 today. It wasn't in the best shape as far as blueing goes. But for $300 I figured I might as well pick it up and get some use out of it. I don't like the 29" barrel on it so I figured I'd get the barrel chopped to 18 1/2 or 20" and Cerakote it to cover up the ugly finish. I only paid $300 for it so I don't think it'll hurt the value of it by any means.

Would y'all leave it as is or have the barrel chopped down and Cerakote it?
 
For a predator hunting shotgun, if you cut it down get it threaded for chokes, otherwise shoot it the way it is
 
The barrel is pretty thin. Too thin to get threaded for a choke probably. So if I choose to make it shorter I may be stuck with a cylinder bore unless I can get a choke put on it somehow.

It would be cool if I could somehow extend the magazine tube but that may be hard to do. Maybe not impossible but I don't know how I'd accomplish that.
 
Leave it. None being made any more. Lots of other shotguns already set up the way you want. Take the barrel off and ship it to Mike Orlen. He will open up your barrel however you want and is reasonable and fast. I have used him on my guns.
 
There is always a Cutts Compensator if you can find an old one, or one of the Select choke. Make it old school. A bucket list gun is a Browning Double Auto wth a Cutts.

Mike does Thin Wall chokes but they aren't/ weren't steel safe
 
I've seen the Cutts compensator chokes in pictures and stuff before. But I've never personally seen one that I can recall. If I did I didn't know that's what it was at the time.
 
I always used a band saw, some barrels would shoot rifled slugs pretty decent. Cut 1/2" off at a time until you find the sweet spot for your chosen brand slug. All(various brands/models) have also made great short range upland guns, brush guns for grouse and woodcock. Didn't bother with trying buck shot, would have been a waste of ammo past 60 feet.
 
I did find out something pretty interesting about my shotgun. I remembered hearing that back in the day Navy guys were trained to shoot down airplanes that were trying to disable one of our ships. So to understand the concept of leading a target they used shotguns and shot airborne targets.

I was looking at that shotgun the other night and noticed an anchor symbol stamped on it. Knowing what I know I had to research it and as I suspected it was a Navy issued Remington model 11. Probably for the use of training guys to kill Kamikazes. That's just a wild guess but I figured that's what it was used for at one point. I don't suppose I'll ever know for sure but it's kinda neat to think about.
 
I believe that the military issue shotguns will have what's referred to as a "Flaming Piss ball" on it, looks like an old fashion hand bomb with flames coming out the top. The anchor mark on a Rem 11 is a factory mark.

My Ex-FinL was a gunner on a bomber in WW-2, made his 25 missions and then taught the rookies to shoot, shooting shotguns. Went on to run the Rochester MN gun club. He was quite the guy, he also survived the Armistice Day storm on the Mississippi River. .one of the best shotgun and rifle shooters I ever met.
 
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I did find out something pretty interesting about my shotgun. I remembered hearing that back in the day Navy guys were trained to shoot down airplanes that were trying to disable one of our ships. So to understand the concept of leading a target they used shotguns and shot airborne targets.

I was looking at that shotgun the other night and noticed an anchor symbol stamped on it. Knowing what I know I had to research it and as I suspected it was a Navy issued Remington model 11. Probably for the use of training guys to kill Kamikazes. That's just a wild guess but I figured that's what it was used for at one point. I don't suppose I'll ever know for sure but it's kinda neat to think about.
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That's a factory proof inspector mark. Guys have been known to try and pass them off as navy guns at gun shows by using this mark
 
My dad was Army air corp/air force P51 fighter pilot, he told me pilots had required trap shooting(some pilots didn't like to shoot shotgun so he would shoot their rds). He was a great wing shot. Also told me about off shore patrol flights and practice shooting anchored targets on the water. About 20-21 seconds of ammo(1880 rds of 50 cal) in the P51D machine guns, not much trigger time in a dog fight or ground pound.
 
The shotgun training was to learn to lead flying aircraft with their anti-aircraft and machine guns.

Cutts choked shotguns ruled the skeet field in the 1960, nothing could put out a pattern as even back then. The Russians were so Impressed with it the coach bought one of the competitors shotguns and sawed to FF the Cutts and they then developed the Tula choke that was used by them to win many major skeet championships..

Here's a Czechoslovakian version made by BRNO in the 1970's. It shoots some very nice skeet patterns, it does look weird. These I imported to go with my BRNO combo gun.
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