UPDATE: Weatherby Vanguard 25-06 Chambering Problems

6mm06

Well-known member
Well, today my Vanguard returned from its second trip to Weatherby. The gunsmith said the chamber is within specs. First trip back home the problem remained. The gunsmith did a deep clean and polished the chamber, and cautioned me to always clean off the lube when reloading. I sent a note in the box stating that it was brand new brass, plus factory ammo. So, I returned the rifle to Weatherby once again. Today I received the rifle back after its second trip. No mechanical work was performed at Weatherby on the second trip. The gunsmith fired a total of 9 rounds of three different factory loads and said all cycled and functioned to specs. He said the chamber is within specs.

At the gun shop today when I picked the gun up, my friend who works there helped check it. He also does some minor gunsmithing. With Hornady American Whitetail loads the rifle still chambers a little hard. Internet searching shows that people are having similar problems with that ammo in a variety of calibers. Still, that doesn't account for a stiff bolt on two brands of brand new brass. On top of that, I picked up a box of Remington Core Loks. Chambering them today was still slightly stiff, though not as bad as the Hornady loads. So, my friend lightly honed the bolt lugs and it functioned noticeably better, but still has a little grit when closing.

I took the rifle home and tried chambering the new brass again. Most functioned OK but a piece or two was a little stiff. I think the rifle has a tight chamber, plus the lugs were a little stiff and rough, enough to notice when closing the bolt on an empty chamber. We may use a lapping compound later and see if that helps, but for the meantime am waiting to see if firing it and working the bolt some will smooth it out more. It's apparent that Weatherby is not going to fix it.

After checking for chambering brass, I then loaded a couple of rounds of 70 gr. Blitz Kings and shot at 75 yards, starting with a middle charge of powder according to the manual.. I know that's not the traditional 100 yards, but it will do for 99% of my hunting. My coyote bait sites are 60 and 82 yards, plus the hog hunting I do over feeders is generally those distances or thereabouts. Two shot groups with the first load went .27" and the second group of .4 more powder went .50". The latter load may not be fair since it was getting darker in the woods at my shooting range and I was struggling a little to see. I am still load developing and will see how far I can go before reaching max. I am hoping for at least 3500 fps. Time will tell. At least it seems the rifle is going to be accurate.

Once I find the final load, then I will mount my new Infiray Bolt TL35 v2 on it. Hopefully the coyotes will cooperate after that.

Here is the original post about the chambering problem. The rifle has made two trips to Weatherby since I began this post.

 
Last edited:
Yeah, it seems that the company could have lapped or polished the lugs. They didn’t seem to find anything wrong. I guess the only other explanation is that the rifle functions good on one side of the Mississippi River and doesn’t on the other side.
 
Dang David, 2 trips back and not correct. Would be no more weatherby products at my house.
Yeah, it seems that the company could have lapped or polished the lugs. They didn’t seem to find anything wrong. I guess the only other explanation is that the rifle functions good on one side of the Mississippi River and doesn’t on the other side.
Poor customer service has caused me to find alternatives for a lot of products.
 
UPDATE AGAIN: I brought the rifle home and began loaded for it. The bolt closure is noticeably better after my friend honed the lugs a little. Using H4831 and 70 gr. Sierra Blitz Kings, I have been working up to a safe load. Surprisingly, the rifle has turned out to be quite accurate with that combination. The old Hodgdon manual shows max loads lower than their newer online data. I started out with the manual I have had for years and was not getting the velocity I was hoping for. I couldn't understand it. Then I went online to Hodgdon's website and found that max loads for H4831 had increased by quite a bit, 3 grains or so. No wonder velocities were low. Anyway, I worked up to within one grain of the new max, which happens to be a compressed load, and shot a 2-shot group (which I normally do) that went .24" with velocity of 3400 fps. Keep in mind that my shooting is only at 78 yards and not the usual 100 yds. My coyote bait sites are 60 and 82 yards, so 78 kind of meets in the middle. I have some more testing with this particular load to see if it is consistent. If so, then I have found my coyote load.

As a note, a milder load that produced velocities in the middle 3100's fps, 3-shot group went .34". I am liking the rifle more and more every day, despite a very shaky start.

The rifle, for the moment, is redeeming itself and producing some very good accuracy - and, the bolt closure seems to have smoothed out pretty good.

54019791230_51c59b995e_c.jpg





This load went 3400 fps. the first group, then clouds kept me from getting the second velocity.

54019352941_ace3c407c8_c.jpg
 
Last edited:
Back
Top