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Semantics maybe. I referenced Hevi 13 in my original post. But TSS wasn't a common thing then available over the counter as it is nowadays. The denser than lead Hevi 13 was a bump up from plain lead loads and now TSS is a considerable bump up from the older Hevi 13 and Wingmaster HD shotshells I progressed to from lead. BTW, my old Benelli M1 with a Kick's GT .660" consistently puts 180+ of those Hevi 13 #6 in 10" at 40 yards. The Indian Creek is even tighter shooting but is such a hunk of pipe on the end of the barrel that I prefer the Kick's choke. During turkey season I have killed coyotes and a couple of hogs with that H13 load. Shoot them in the head with a swarm of that and they are in trouble. Vanillia flavored old school lead turkey loads were a lot less effective. TSS is a whole nuther thing.

[QUOTE="GC, post: 3382432, member: 58"] Semantics maybe. I referenced Hevi 13 in my original post. But TSS wasn't a common thing then available over the counter as it is nowadays. The denser than lead Hevi 13 was a bump up from plain lead loads and now TSS is a considerable bump up from the older Hevi 13 and Wingmaster HD shotshells I progressed to from lead. BTW, my old Benelli M1 with a Kick's GT .660" consistently puts 180+ of those Hevi 13 #6 in 10" at 40 yards. The Indian Creek is even tighter shooting but is such a hunk of pipe on the end of the barrel that I prefer the Kick's choke. During turkey season I have killed coyotes and a couple of hogs with that H13 load. Shoot them in the head with a swarm of that and they are in trouble. Vanillia flavored old school lead turkey loads were a lot less effective. TSS is a whole nuther thing. [/QUOTE]

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