the number one impediment to successful predator calling

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foxhunter1

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maybe it's just me but the number one impediment to successful predator calling is visual pollution. when you go to put the call out in many situations you will pollute the immediate area. i am of the opinion that this educates the educates a lot of predators. how many times have you set up and had coyotes start barking and howling at you. my experience has been it's not impossible to call these coyotes but near impossible.
just an idea why not design a drone with a built-in predator caller? you could simply fly it out and land it to call. this would allow you to get the caller farther away without polluting the area. after watching several videos of callers using drone to track coyotes coming in they don't seem to spook the critter.
there are several places (canyons i know of where you could fly a drone across the canyon and land it to call fox, bobcat or coyote where it is impossible to call due to the terrain. i would design the caller to use two separate power supplies, one for drone flight and one for the caller with each power pack being modular and easily swapped out being with spare power packs.
i'm sure if i ame off base someone will tell me where i went wrong with my idea.
 
Interesting, but that would likely be considered illegal in New Mexico, so I'm out. These are illegal actions:
- Hunt or shoot at any animal from an aircraft or drone or fly an aircraft in any manner that causes any non-domesticated animal to move from its place of rest or change its direction of travel.
Granted, you're not advocating shooting from a drone, but using it to "hunt" or cause an animal to move would violate the above prohibition.
 
I would be more concerned about the whole walk/route in general. How is it you can get to your stand location(without coyote sensing you) but not place the ecaller without alerting coyote?
 
Honestly I've only been busted a few times and it was early on when I was just getting into predator hunting. I wasn't worried about noise like I am now. I skylined myself more often than I should have been and wasn't worried about how I was getting to the stand or hiding the vehicle.

I take draws and low spots instead of going over hills to get to the spot I'm calling, hide the vehicle well and make sure I can set up where a coyote is less likely to see me. The only troubles I've had in recent years was jumping coyotes up that were bedded down on my way to the spot I was going to call. And even those are possible to call back if they don't see you. Sometimes they just run because they hear something, they don't even know what they're running for. I don't set the call out very far at all either though. 50 yards or so at the most. Often times 35 yards or closer.
 
Next thing your going to want, critter seeking bullet, dial your quarry and fire it in the air. There is a point where it goes from hunting to just killing.

Sometimes I think it would have been better to have stopped at flintlocks with patched round balls and natural material calls
 
AWS said:
Next thing your going to want, critter seeking bullet, dial your quarry and fire it in the air. There is a point where it goes from hunting to just killing.

Sometimes I think it would have been better to have stopped at flintlocks with patched round balls and natural material calls
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I dunno, if the fur market is good it wouldn't hurt my feelings to have some fur seeking bullets or maybe a drone with a shotgun mounted on it for days when the calling ain't very good.

It'd be kinda like an arcade game chasing coyotes down with a remote controlled aircraft and gunning them down. I'm scared of heights so that'd be the best thing next to shooting them out of a helicopter.
 
DesertRam said:
Interesting, but that would likely be considered illegal in New Mexico, so I'm out. These are illegal actions:
- Hunt or shoot at any animal from an aircraft or drone or fly an aircraft in any manner that causes any non-domesticated animal to move from its place of rest or change its direction of travel.
Granted, you're not advocating shooting from a drone, but using it to "hunt" or cause an animal to move would violate the above prohibition.
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coyotes are non game animals in new mexico
 
OKRattler said:
Honestly I've only been busted a few times and it was early on when I was just getting into predator hunting. I wasn't worried about noise like I am now. I skylined myself more often than I should have been and wasn't worried about how I was getting to the stand or hiding the vehicle.

I take draws and low spots instead of going over hills to get to the spot I'm calling, hide the vehicle well and make sure I can set up where a coyote is less likely to see me. The only troubles I've had in recent years was jumping coyotes up that were bedded down on my way to the spot I was going to call. And even those are possible to call back if they don't see you. Sometimes they just run because they hear something, they don't even know what they're running for. I don't set the call out very far at all either though. 50 yards or so at the most. Often times 35 yards or closer.
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i do the same thing though i have had coyotes run 10 yards in front of my truck coming to my call. had fox run under it and even had a ground hog waddle out from under it one day. he was headed to his favorite clover patch. i let him eat for a couple minutes as a last meal, shot him with my 17x28, drt.
 
I have a couple areas that get pretty wide open in front of where I sit. In those scenarios, instead of walking the call out further in front of me, I will leave the call behind me a ways. Works out pretty well for me at least in select scenarios.
 
Walk a straight line to put your call out and walk straight back. the only pollution i have experienced is when they cross where i have walked. Don't make a lot of noise while walking, a drone will make more noise than me walking in.
 
I'm pretty content with the way things are currently. I like that I still need to have a bit of skill to be successful. I like that I make mistakes at times, as those mistakes are the things that ultimately improve my skills. I use many things to hunt coyotes now that are considered high tech, and they have certainly improved my success rates, but only if I do the critical things right. There's a certain amount that needs to be done correctly to trick these critters, and I only have so much time to invest in chasing them. I don't mind saying that I use an e-caller, a thermal optic and a carbon tripod to help me be successful. Or that I wear modern fabrics and footwear to keep me out there longer. I also like that I also throw out a few sounds from hand calls and diaphragms to add some personal elements to my sets. I'd prefer to not go back to flintlocks and patched round balls exclusively! Lol...

Now to the OP's point of pollution and needing to set out the caller via drone... Getting busted... It's just part of it man! You might have been busted long before you set that call out. You might be pushing too close to spots where the coyotes are hanging out. There could certainly be other reasons, but if this is a thing that happens frequently, I think I would start looking for reasons beyond "visual pollution" as the culprit. Might simply need to reassess your approach and setups?
 
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