Still hunting, tracking, spot and stalk, high house hunting(elevated stands), trail watching.

AWS

Retired PM Staff
We've had a long discussion on hunting with feeders. My BinL was a Hunters Ed instructor in WI and commented that if it weren't for a sack of corn or a bushel of apples most people wouldn't know how to hunt deer.

He's mainly a trail watcher, occasionally if the woods is quiet he and his nephew do mini drives, pretty effective for them. One picks a strategic stand and the other still hunts around a patch of cover, they pretty much are equally successful with still hunter spotting and killing a deer and the stander catching one sneaking away. These aren't antler hunters they could care less they hunt to fill the freezer. BinL is a retired butcher and used to process 75 deer a year and makes great brats and polish sausage. All on public lands and they live in the heart of WI wolf country..

I'm more interested in tracking and still hunting and did do mini drives with my Ex and BinL when his nephew was little. I love tracking, spending the day learning what a deer is going to do to elude me. Sometimes they give you key early sometimes it is an all day affair.

One of the least impressive bucks was one of the smartest, a three year old spike. He knew all the tricks. I started the day in a heavy wet snow storm. I picked up his track along with a pair of smaller tracks, it didn't take long for him to abandon the does. He did it all, jumping a long way off the track so his tracks just ended and I'd have to cirle until I picked them up. Circling back and watching me go past, never saw him, but could see where the snow started to fill the tracks and then start again fresh as I neared. Some times he would travel a long ways and find a place to watch his back trail. finally he started going through black spruce thickets so tight I had to crawl and then find where he would watch till I was nearly through and he'd bail. I tried circling around and he'd know. Finally i saw him heading to another thicket and made a long loop around down wind and caught him staring back at the thicket , by then the snow was knee deep. The old Savage did it's job, the old savage is a story in it's self. It was night and still snowing by the time I had him dressed and I had no idea where I was except south of International Falls and West of Ely. There is odd light during a snow storm it maybe dark night but you can see brush and trees. When I hunt, I have a knife, rifle, matches and compass. I knew there was an abandoned railroad grade that ran N/S past my camp and I've hunted grouse and woodcock along it. So the drag began. I'd drag until I felt like I wasn't heading correctly and stop and light a match and check the compass and off I go again. I was younger then and could hump a voyagers 150 lb pack (no should straps just a trumpline} in competition. It took a few hours to make it to the railroad grade and the fellows from another camp helped me get it to my camp. It was a deer to remember.

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This is the most impressive buck, it took four adults to drag him out, two in deer towing harnesses and a four foot length of limb lashed to his antlers and a guy on either side pulling and still we had to stop every hundred yards.

My Binl and nephew were watching a bowl a few hundred yards across deer would use the bottom of the bowl as a crossing. I'm not much for sitting a watching. I went two ridges north of them and still hunted into the wind I think this deer saw or felt my presence and tried to sneak around me, all I saw of him was part of an ear, an eye and the base of a antler in a hole in the brush so I knew it was a buck, I froze and waited, I could see him moving through the brush but too thick for a shot. I could see a small opening ahead of him and waited. I saw his body move into the opening and shot, he went forty yards dumping blood like someone was dumping out of a five gallon bucket. I still hadn't seen the whole deer and when a caught up with him was stunned. I gutted him and tried to drag him and could barely move him so wrapped a bandana around the tree and rounded up my BinL and nephews for the job of getting him to the truck.

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Shot him behind the first group of pines in the bottom of the hill.

I number of folks have high houses over looking swamps and travel ways, some are pretty elaborate kind of like some ice fishing houses. This is private land hunting. You see them out in the fields while driving though the country much like you do Europe.

Out where I live now I could spend a month still hunting and might not see a deer and tracking would be really tough as some places you can see tracks months old. As Desert Ram said you might have a hundred deer /sq mile and we might have 100 sq. miles per deer. Spot and stalk is the thing, as I travel the back country coyote hunting you'll see hunters parked with their spotting scops set up along the road glassing the hillsides and then the work begins to get close enough to them for a shot.

There is all manor of deer hunting for some more enjoyable than others.
 
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I give you credit for shooting any deer up there far from camp. The terrain can be wicked. The pictures in your post seemed to not work.
 
When I was much younger and was just hunting for meat, I’d walk the creek beds or even creeks when they were low. I’d walk them with a shotgun. That was our version of just “stalking” and it was the only way to be quiet. Leaves get quite loud and open roads/trails get you seen. I’d say it’s about impossible to “follow” a deer here without snow or bare ground.
I will say I killed a lot of deer walking creeks back in the day and deer will float which makes getting them back nearer the pickup point a lot easier vs dragging them through the woods.

Way back in the day I hunted a military installation and the last 2 weekends they would have a deer drive. Now this sounds great, except this was an archery only installation. Out of three shots, I actually killed 2 deer. No tracking was necessary because as they were driving through the next block they’d find them, lol.

I’ve been on a few doe drives at my son’s plantation for management purposes and those were more fun than the archery drives. 2 drivers and 3-4 shooters. Of course we used shotguns and 00Buck and I’d forgotten how devastating a shotgun could be on running deer. I think out of the 4 blocks we drove, we ended up with 23 does and saw some giants in the mix.

Great post man, thanks for bringing up some old memories!!
 
I'm not much of a sitter. I hunt big blocks of public ground that are pretty rough and remote. I throw the Mystery Ranch on my back, cuddle up with whatever rifle I have chosen for the trip and get to stepping. Wind in my favor I love to slide along the bottom edge of big clearcut areas. I catch a lot of deer moving in and out of those clearcuts and feeding on the oak flats along the hillsides. When the right one comes along I shoot then debone and quarter and pack the good stuff out with me in one trip.
 
That's neat, wish we could have done that. Deer had to be brought into the check station complete except for field dressing. Nice Browning.
 
That's neat, wish we could have done that. Deer had to be brought into the check station complete except for field dressing. Nice Browning.

I see your pics.

you are correct, that is an advantage to not having actual check-in stations. We used to have to make a 3 ring circus out of dealing with a dead deer.

gut it, drag it, load it, weigh it at check-in, hang it to skin and de-bone.

Now I do like GC. As soon as i recover it I process it the gutless method in the field.
 
Why the bottom edge rather than sides or top GC?

The top of these Ozark ridges are narrow. The flat area on top may only be 25 - 50 yards wide. The sides of these ridges can have 45* - 60* slopes. The clearcuts usually lay like a long rectangle along the top and one side or the other of the ridgetop. A typical clearcut might be 200 - 350 yards long and extend from the top down 100 - 200 yards wide along the side of the ridge. Occasionally a clearcut overlaps the top like a saddle. Still hunting along the top of the ridge doesn't allow you to actually see much territory. If a deer does show with just a few jumps he is off the side of the ridgetop and out of sight. Or, he ducks back into the clearcut in a step or two.

Hunting the bottom edge of the clearcut allows you to see the sides of the ridge you are on, the holler below, the opposing hillside across the holler, and down the spur ridges. Deer squirt in and out of those clearcuts and move along the sidehills, benches, and spur ridges. They feed on oak flats along the sides of the ridge and security cover is either up high and into the clearcut or they bail off down the holler. Deer use these long winding hollers as travel routes and like it down low and out of sight.

Most other hunters won't go in those places. It is work, lots of it. Plus they can't get a deer out. Dragging a deer out of those places is an excruciating event. Years ago my dad and I were standing at the edge of one of those black hole hollers that went winding straight down and down into the timber. Dad commented, "That's where the big ones live." I said, "Dad, if I see a big buck down in there and you saw me raise my rifle to kill it what would you do?" Without so much as a smile, Dad said, "I'd kick you hard square in the nuts. In the long run that would hurt less and the recovery would be shorter than trying to drag a buck outta there!" And that is the dilemma for those hunters attached to an ATV or game cart. I am the only guy I know who does the gutless debone, quarter, and pack out when I kill a deer. Been doing that since 2006 when check stations closed and Telecheck became the way to register your kill. Now, if I can walk into a place, I can walk a deer out of that place on my back. That has opened up a ton of opportunities for me to hunt unpressured deer with no competition from other hunters.
 
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Right on par. This rifle shoots factory-loaded Hornady American Whitetail 150 gr. sub 1" at 100 yards. Or, handloads with 150 gr. Ballistic Tip, 165 gr. Interlocks and/or Sierra 165 gr. go into little clusters sub 1". Can't remember ever shooting a 180 gr. bullet from the little BLR.
 
Gboy has the BLR in 270 but doesn't shoot it much. I gave the Long Ranger 308W some exercise this morning. Worked just peachy. 150 Hornady SP and LeverE loads. About one inch with just the front stand. Didn't chrony but POI same as 4895.
 
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