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I pattern at 13, 25, 40, and 50 yards. I will shoot longer distances "if" the 50 yard pattern is promising enough. My son just bought a new Vinci and the first thing we did to determine point of aim/point of impact was screw the factory Full choke in and shoot three shots from 13 yards. You should be dead on left/right and either dead on (flat pattern) or no more than 2" inches high at 13 yards (60/40 pattern). His Vinci was dead on left/right and about 1 1/2" high and shot one single ragged hole with the three shots - perfect. The Winchester SX3 he had awhile back was 4" left and 9" high at 13 yards. That made 40 yard patterns about 18" left and 30" high. That's a problem...