Grey fox pup?

bigbluetruck

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I'm interested in everyones opinion on this one. Everyone I've talked to always heavily used the JS Grey Fox Pup in Distress sound. I have never had any success using it. I was getting pretty fustrated when I first started calling because I wasn't getting any response. I finally started using a young cottontail distress and started getting Greys in fairly regularly. Maybe it has something to do with how I hunt, but I don't think I'm really doing anything different than most. I never understood why the Grey Fox Pup was supposed to be attractive to them. There aren't any fox pups when everyone does most of their calling.
Anyone have an explaination?
 
I sealed the deal on New Years eve using the Foxpro Grey fox pup. I started the stand with a cottontail, then went to a chirping coaxer, then finished with the fox pup. After about 10 minutes of the first two nothing responded. About two minutes into the fox pup and a big male was sitting in our lap. I botched the close shot trying to reposition, but the sound and the decoy held him up at about 80 yds for a 223 shot. It was overcast, cold, and about 9:30 p.m.
 
In another part of the forum, someone asked about favourite foxpro sounds. I answered that with what I have found successful. I also have tried the JS Grey fox distress to no avail. There used to be a number of grey fox in my area (when I was trapping quite abit) I got greys 3 to 1 over reds. I think OUR mental attitude about a call helps or hinders our success, JMO. Anyone?
 
You're right, when most folks do their calling in the fall and winter, there are not any fox pups around. So obviously using a Gray Fox Pup in Distress sound would be a grave waste of time. Nope! I wouldn't waste my time like that, it would never work anyway. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

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There is no explaination for it, it just works, and works very well indeed. It will put more doubles in front of you in January&February than any other sound. We can analyze all we want that it is maternal instinct or they think somebody is getting laid and want some too, but it just works.
 
I use the fox distress more than the pup. I've had fox in at 30 yards or less, the shooter misses, and I immediately play the distress, and some have actually stopped, turned around and came running back in. And died. It's a great tool to have. Randy
 
i have always been the opposite of you bigblue, i have never been able to call a fox in using a rabbit distress.. mainly bc i either used the gfp or yellow hammered woodpecker.. a few years back i picked up a grey fox fight tape and used it with great success.. but my go to call was the grey fox pup.. cant explain it, it is more then curiosity that makes them bulldoze you over when that tape is playing... i have had females come running full bore at me and shoot them to keep them off my legs and keep the call going and have the males actually jump right past the dead one still charging the call... cant explain it and probably never will.. like they said above it just works...
 
I guess there is something to say about having confidence in a sound, and being more likely to use it. I have used the GFP to recall one that came in to a cottontail distress but hung up out of shotgun range and had left once before. Maybe the combination of the two would make a combination to try out on more stands. I wonder how educated foxes can become to a sound? I know there are more hunters than I calling around here, and the GFP has been most hunters #1 for years. I have also noticed that the clearest sounds seem to work alot better, and my GFP has a little background noise to it. I have it in my head that the higher pitched and busier sounds appear to be from smaller critters that the Greys can handle alot easier. I think it is also a confidence builder because the smaller sounds are more likely to be made by something a Grey can easily handle. Also, they may shy away from the sound of a larger critter probably being attacked by something even larger, like a Coyote that a Grey would want to avoid. The reason I think this is because when I hunt around places that have heavy Coyote sign, the Greys seem to be very careful and slow to come to the call, and other areas where I find no Coyote sign they are pretty eager at the right times. I wonder if a sound with the combination of sounds like a young cottontail to create excitement, and that of another Grey Fox or other critter that a Grey isn't afraid of as a confidence builder would make a good call? Again, I don't have anything to prove any of my ideas, just my thoughts on what I have observed, and I'm not a pro at this by far. I have a really hard time accepting the fact that not everything that happens it nature is base on rationality. I always set up my stands to make the appearance as though something typical has happened. Such as: an owl took a swipe at a rabbit and only injured it, the rabbit has made it to a brush pile and the owl landed and is trying to pull the rabbit back out of the brush by a leg. Of course, the only sound I'm playing is the rabbit in distress but I want the fox to think that there is an easy meal to be had if he runs off the original attacker. I don't want the Grey to think he might be coming in on a Coyote doing something similar. I know the GFP works well for some, and if it works for them great. I know I shouldn't care why it works if it brings them in, but thats not in my nature and it may help me figure out why it has never been real good for me. I figure the more I know about how they think and their nature the better I'll be at taking them consistantly.
 
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