easier to call western or eastern coyote?I think it is alot harder to call eastern yote than western even though I aint hunted in the west.Reason for that you dont see hardly no eastern yote movies or here about it so I think us eastern hunters have a harder time.Thanks for replies.
easier to call western or eastern coyote
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sleddogg
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Hi Regulator!
I live in Ma., and call a good handfull of predators each year. I doubt the Eastern coyote is any different than the Western in responding to the call. BUT we have no where near the population which is why it seems so hard at times. You really have to hunt hard and not let up.
If you sneak into a good set-up, and a coyote is around to hear your call(thats the hardest part) he will respond. I don't do anything fancy, just blow regular old handcalls, and it works fine. I hunt in the forest out of a treestand alot also.
So don't try to hunt the Eastern like its done out West, or you'll usually come up empty handed. The terrain is just too different here. Instead hunt them more like a Whitetail in the forest, or thicker transition cover. Remember the Eastern coyote live and hunt in the forest, and thats where you will kill him. If you can hunt legally at night the more traditional style of field hunting will work well then. They can be hard to call into the open in daylight.
Also, don't expect to kill a mess of animals here. If you pull out 15 or 20 coyotes out of the woods a YEAR, you done good!
Good hunting! Sleddogg
I live in Ma., and call a good handfull of predators each year. I doubt the Eastern coyote is any different than the Western in responding to the call. BUT we have no where near the population which is why it seems so hard at times. You really have to hunt hard and not let up.
If you sneak into a good set-up, and a coyote is around to hear your call(thats the hardest part) he will respond. I don't do anything fancy, just blow regular old handcalls, and it works fine. I hunt in the forest out of a treestand alot also.
So don't try to hunt the Eastern like its done out West, or you'll usually come up empty handed. The terrain is just too different here. Instead hunt them more like a Whitetail in the forest, or thicker transition cover. Remember the Eastern coyote live and hunt in the forest, and thats where you will kill him. If you can hunt legally at night the more traditional style of field hunting will work well then. They can be hard to call into the open in daylight.
Also, don't expect to kill a mess of animals here. If you pull out 15 or 20 coyotes out of the woods a YEAR, you done good!
Good hunting! Sleddogg
I agree with Sleddogg.I think it has more to do with the number of animals that can hear your calling.The thick woods around here really knocks down the range of the call.My buddy moved to Nevada for a few years and said he could shoot a few coyotes a week without even calling.He just got into a good spot where he could see a long way and sniped them with a 22-250.He said the place was over run with them.95% of my shots are under 100 yards here and most are closer to 40.
I just wanted to post about the thread on calling east or west, I personaly think that there are so many variables to put into this equation and they all must be addressed to have a conclusive answer, such as population, number of coyotes per square mile, structure like openness or wooded areas, the amount of pressure and this goes along with population of people in the area, and of course the amount of time spent afield, myself I truly beleive that callers from the east do as well as callers from the west, but I also feel that there is a large number of coyotes called in and never seen due to terrain features, and we all know that everytime you call a coyote in and he busts you for what ever the reason wind, cover, poor shooting or just bad calling they get tougher to call each time, so if you put all the variables into the equation I don't know if coyotes are actually any tougher in one spot than an other, and my reason for saying this is because a coyote is a coyote no matter where he is, his charecteristics are the same no matter where he lives the only thing is he has adapted and ajusted to his surroundings what ever they might be and each year I find that the coyotes do a lot more circling a lot farther out and with this there will be less killed and more smarter coyotes, I hope I haven't offended anyone, these are just my personal feelings.
Bud Nadeau
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I've hunted both the west and the east, and what I've found is the amount of accessible land to hunt. In the west you can run a blm, national forest or any dirt road and make a stand every 3/4 or a mile apart. These roads may be 30-50 miles long (makes for a lot of stands) and if that road doesn't fit your needs you just jump over to another road. You can't even begin to cover a fraction of the land here in the east.
The coyote population in the east is not as dense as the west, which in my opinion there is more compatition for food in the western states ( at least in Arizona) were I've called for many years.
The eastern coyote is in my opinion a much more aware animal dure to more tight quarters and deals with humans on a daily basis.
To sum it up the more availible land = more stands = more munbers of coyotes you will call up. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
The coyote population in the east is not as dense as the west, which in my opinion there is more compatition for food in the western states ( at least in Arizona) were I've called for many years.
The eastern coyote is in my opinion a much more aware animal dure to more tight quarters and deals with humans on a daily basis.
To sum it up the more availible land = more stands = more munbers of coyotes you will call up. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I think it is more the habitat the coyotes are living in than anything else that makes them more difficult to call. Close to where I live here in OR we have a lot of lodgepole/ponderosa pine forest. This habitat holds a lot of coyotes but they are much harder to call than the coyotes that inhabit the desert country further east. When you do call one, because of the cover, there are a lot more factors in the coyotes favor and more get away. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if all the country out west was forested, fewer coyotes would be killed by hunters. This isn't neccessarily because there would be fewer coyotes as much as they would be harder to call and kill. I find the coyotes that inhabit the timber here to be very frustrating and I'm sure many eastern coyote hunters have the same problem.
Bud, you about said it all right there. I can go out and never see another person all day and all night. I don't have thousands of acres to hunt, I have millions of acres to hunt on in California, Nevada, Arizona and even Mexico if I want. People who have never been out west have no idea how vast the west really is. Reeper, we have lots of land in the west that's forested, you ever try hunting in manzanita? that stuff makes a forest look like a wide open space lol. I mean we have more kinds of terrain then most any place on earth, high and low deserts, hills and huge mountians, even some swamps lol. The coyote, bobcat and fox populations out here can be unbelieveable at times. I have had people tell me the eastern coyote is much smarter then his western counterpart, I don't believe that and neither does alot of other long time predator callers. A coyote is a coyote east or west, it's all a numbers game and places a hunter can hunt. Just my opinion and it's free lol, Good Hunting.
Mike Eversole
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Regulator,
I think the eastern coyote is probably a little harder to hunt.Although i'm in agreement with everyones statements
I think the eastern coyote is probably a little harder to hunt.Although i'm in agreement with everyones statements
Mike Eversole
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I forget to add i'm getting out of here,i'll be one more guy out west.When one of the guys touting the vastness of the west sees me he'll remember bragging on how desolate it"WAS" out west.
I'm moving to azzwipe,montana,gonna shootout the barrels of all my guns on gophers,pd's,chuck's yotes,bob>well you get the picture.
I'm moving to azzwipe,montana,gonna shootout the barrels of all my guns on gophers,pd's,chuck's yotes,bob>well you get the picture.
Pruson
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In the past month I have hunted coyotes in Texas and Missouri, North Carolina and VA.
A coyote is a coyote, east or west. BUT,generally they do receive an higher degree of education here in the east. BA,BS,PHD whatever. They get smart quicker. Too many people making contact with them, not all are hunters. They learn how to live in the suburbs and eat housecats, raid dumpsters. In Texas and other western areas there are coyotes(and lots of em') who have never seen a human being.
The masses of land that many spoke of earlier in this post are unbelievable to us easterns. TX is big. Here in VA, I found a great place to call yesterday, it was almost 300 acres. In Texas I hunted a ranch that was over 28 sq miles. Sound travels good in 28 sq miles of open terrain as opposed to 280 acres of heavy timber and pine cutovers with hills and hollers, sort like those lodgepole pines of NW. They have something to use to their advantage when coming into the call,gives em a chance to get smart. In some of those western areas you can see em coming for a mile before they get there.
I can relate to the guy from GA who set-up then starting hearing folks talking, it ain't like that out west at all.
East or West, yep it is the same, but different.
Just my own experience.
A coyote is a coyote, east or west. BUT,generally they do receive an higher degree of education here in the east. BA,BS,PHD whatever. They get smart quicker. Too many people making contact with them, not all are hunters. They learn how to live in the suburbs and eat housecats, raid dumpsters. In Texas and other western areas there are coyotes(and lots of em') who have never seen a human being.
The masses of land that many spoke of earlier in this post are unbelievable to us easterns. TX is big. Here in VA, I found a great place to call yesterday, it was almost 300 acres. In Texas I hunted a ranch that was over 28 sq miles. Sound travels good in 28 sq miles of open terrain as opposed to 280 acres of heavy timber and pine cutovers with hills and hollers, sort like those lodgepole pines of NW. They have something to use to their advantage when coming into the call,gives em a chance to get smart. In some of those western areas you can see em coming for a mile before they get there.
I can relate to the guy from GA who set-up then starting hearing folks talking, it ain't like that out west at all.
East or West, yep it is the same, but different.
Just my own experience.
varmit_master
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When you kill a coyote in the east you have earned it i have hunted all day and not see one then hunt another and call in 3 and i think i am on a roll and the only diff. on the east and west part is that the eastern coyote maybe a little bigger and west has more coyotes the hunting is hard because most of the land i hunt is almost all woods BUT as long as you get to kill a coyote i am happy with the hunting and like MIKE SAID u dont go thru very much ammo VM
I agree with the things everyone has said.It is hard to find a place to hunt and they are more educated so it makes for a fun time. 2 years ago I called in 36 yotes for me and my three friends in feb. thats the first year i started calling and we only killed 13yotes and 7 foxes mainly because u could'nt get more than one shot because of the cover.This year we have killed 19 and this is the best month i think so,we aint doin bad i dont guess.Thanks for the responses I just wanted to see what everybody else thought.I live in ripley county to.
I have called throughout the west and also did a stint in Iowa and a few years in Alabama. The hardest part of calling in the east is finding enough land. I went out over the weekend for 2 days and put 283 miles on the truck. That is a lot of ground covered and a lot of stands made. I had about the same success in Iowa and Alabama as I do out west about 1 called in for 4-5 stands. Calling coyotes is a numbers game, more stands= more shot oppertunity. I used the same tactics in Iowa and Alabama as I do out west and they seemed to work just fine. But we all have bad streaks. We probably made 30 stands this weekend and called in 3 coyotes. Full moon and the wind didn't help, but it sure beat sitting at home.
Scott
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