E-Caller - Volume Level & Other Newbie Advice (Eastern Ontario)

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Eddy3783

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Hi All,

Recently I've started to get into coyote hunting up in Eastern Ontario. I typically hunt 100-200 acre fields, semi-surrounded by bush.

I have had some decent luck in the mornings with an ICOtec GC300 at a 30% coyote spotting ratio (I locate beforehand to get close).

I've recently purchased an ICOtec Sabre (It uses the same large speaker as the night stalker our outlaw) as I wanted a larger call list as to not educate coyotes. This unit can get LOUD.

I have not had luck with the new caller yet, but I did have some coyotes barking at me for 10 minutes straight at about 500 yards away the other day as I played distress sounds. I don't believe they would have heard me, seen me, or smelled me as I am cognizant of coyotes preferred approach locations. I do 5 minutes of calling, 5 minutes of silence, for 40 minutes.

I feel like I have been calling too loudly with it. What volume range should I stick to? (1-10). Is less, more? Any other newbie advice that would pertain to my region?

Thanks!
 
I can't help you with that call, but there seems to be two types of hunters...

1. The if they can't hear it, you are wasting your time crowd. These guys run the call as loud as they can or as loud as it still sounds realistic.

2. Will start out really low then get louder they longer they call.
 
If you feel you’re calling too loudly, turn it down and see what happens.

The volume range you use can vary based on terrain and conditions. Sticking to a specific volume level for everything doesn’t make sense. Your caller has volume controls for a reason.

Is less more?… Sometimes. Other times more is more.

You say 30% coyote spotting. How many times have you been Out? Is the 30% from the same area? What types of sounds are you getting these sightings with? Distress or vocalizations? Lots of variables to consider and lots of unknowns about what you have done so far.
 
In the winter, light breeze nights I have had coyote hear a squeeze type mouse squeaker @200 yards. Tough to walk that close without coyote hearing me. Calling 100-200 acres, less than 1/4 mile by 1/4 mile I typically wouldn't be over 1/2 volume. If I can hear the call at 50 yards coyote can hear it at 300+ yards. But I don't usually call in winds over 15 mph.
 
Thanks guys.

The first time we went out we started with a male coyote vocalization. A lone coyote piped up and started howling at us 300 yards away, just inside the bush line on the opposite side of the field. 4 mins later a coyote came running out of the fence line right beside us (downwind of the call) and stopped in the middle of the field. I put a 53gr VMAX right through his noggin.

The second time we didn't see anything. This was at the same location as the first hunt.

The 3rd hunt we tried a new area (Pasture field beside a bush). We started up a chicken distress at 3/4 volume and 30 mins later a coyote came running in at the call. My friend missed, unfortunately.

The last few hunts have had zero success getting eyes on them, but we have had them barking at us as previously stated.
 
I usually don't go much louder than mid volume on my ecaller. I usually only crank it up to full volume when its windy. On calm days I usually call at a little lower volume. I often start at a low volume and then slowly adjust up until the volume seems to sound right for the situation. I have no idea if this actually makes a difference in my level of success or not. I know some people just blast their caller at the loudest setting and still have success.
 
DoubleLungRage said:
From my experience, a coyote hanging up and barking at you usually means that he knows that something is up. He either seen or smelled you.
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I drove to a new farm about a month ago to hunt, an hour an 15 minutes one way. Just got setup on the edge of a pipeline overlooking a draw and just as it was getting dark a yote popped out 40yds from me, shotgun range, turned and went right back into the timber. Then he starts his hey, guys he's over here barking howling crap. Man I was sitting there thinking I just drove an hour and 15 minutes, crap. So, what do I have to lose? I started in with my caller and we had a howling show down for 15 minutes, damnest thing I ever seen, finally his vocals and lungs give out and things turn quiet. In the next hour and a half I killed 3 yotes off that stand and never moved, I was literally surrounded. LOL You just never know and never quit learning
 
Hunter55 said:
I drove to a new farm about a month ago to hunt, an hour an 15 minutes one way. Just got setup on the edge of a pipeline overlooking a draw and just as it was getting dark a yote popped out 40yds from me, shotgun range, turned and went right back into the timber. Then he starts his hey, guys he's over here barking howling crap. Man I was sitting there thinking I just drove an hour and 15 minutes, crap. So, what do I have to lose? I started in with my caller and we had a howling show down for 15 minutes, damnest thing I ever seen, finally his vocals and lungs give out and things turn quiet. In the next hour and a half I killed 3 yotes off that stand and never moved, I was literally surrounded. LOL You just never know and never quit learning
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Agree 100%. Last year I had one come in on me in some timber. The only shot I had is down a skidder row. He knew I was there and worked back and forth for over an hour. He would bark and I would play a bark. He would howl and I would play a how. I finally shot him on his 3rd or 4th time running across the skidder row.

I worked one for over two hours last week that knew I was there. I finally gave up. I did get his gf though.
 
Vol hi---vol low who knows. I always start at 40-50% with distress and ramp up and down. Vocals are 80-100% except pup distress which is age specific. Kiyi 70-80% to start then ramp down and back up to the starting point.
 
DoubleLungRage said:
I can't help you with that call, but there seems to be two types of hunters...

1. The if they can't hear it, you are wasting your time crowd. These guys run the call as loud as they can or as loud as it still sounds realistic.

2. Will start out really low then get louder they longer they call.
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I guess my style would be the 3rd type of hunter.

I try to start out in the middle, what I think is more realistic. Distress I'm usually at 16-18 to start and vocals I'm at 20-24. Distress I'll go up as high as 30 and move it up and down as it plays. Vocals I might increase volume as the stand progresses, but I don't mess with the volume while it's playing a vocal.

One thing I would point out is what I learned on a stand from last year. I had a pair of coyotes come in, killed one, and the other one ran into the woods. It barked and howled at me for a while. Couldn't get a clear shot on it, but the shear volume of that coyote's vocals was an eye opener to me. I've caught baby rabbits before and their scream is no where near as loud as that coyote. So I guess that's why I choose the volumes I start at as it's the most realistic IMHO.

I guess I should have mentioned that this is on a X24 call.
 
Earlier this year while observing my position, I hadn't turned on the call yet, I spotted 2 coyotes 500 yds away. I played woodpecker distress on a pretty low volume and they stopped and looked my way and stated coming in. I killed 1 but no shot at the other. I was surprised they heard my call at the distance and low volume. I was using a Night Stalker call .
 
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