Back in my youth

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medic joe

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Both of my older bro's in their late teens & early 20's. Were street fighters/brawlers. They fought thugs/bullies. They taught me how to fight when I was very young. I spent three years perfecting my fighting skills ages of 15-18. I never bullied anyone. But I never turned away from a challenge either. I also took karate for 1 yr. As it turned out, our instructor didn't teach me anything. I could not already do. By the age of 18 I was in top form. A very good boxer & kicker. I was over 6'2" & weighed 185. Nary a lb of fat on me. As I was lean & all muscle & bone. I never bullied anyone. As for bullies I fought my share of loud mouthed punk-azz bullies. One who was my size & had at least another 20 lbs of more muscle than me. We fought behind a car wash one night on an open area of pavement. He was a tough ole boy. We were both 17 at the time. We fought each other hard getting in many stout blows. However he didn't kick, I did. Early in that fight. I realized he wanted to actually kill me. So I returned that favor. I had him on the ground twice. I ran up to him & kicked him in the chest & back so hard. Both impacts stood him up on his feet. Yet here he came at me for more. Neither of us made the other submit. That fight was eventually broke up by another guy.

I was a county medic years later. I was a medic for many years. I used my kicking skills to breech dead bolt locked steel entry doors & solid oak doors. Not one of which keep me out. To get to my 911 patient. I've also been on domestic calls. Where our local PD Officers. Were fighting with a perp. I always joined in & helped them cuff the bad guy. Here I'm below, way back when. Age 18.

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Nice kick Joe! You looked in great shape back then đź‘Ť.
Nowadays most of the kids are copying the ufc stuff and the kicks are usually based on Muay Thai (Thailand kickboxing). More kicks to the thigh just above the knee, a few to the body, and the head kicks often come after those lower ones when the guy starts dropping his hands a little.




 
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Newpond0 said:
Nice kick Joe! You looked in great shape back then đź‘Ť.
Nowadays most of the kids are copying the ufc stuff and the kicks are usually based on Muay Thai (Thailand kickboxing). More kicks to the thigh just above the knee, a few to the body, and the head kicks often come after those lower ones when the guy starts dropping his hands a little.




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Age 15, I practiced the so named "Spinning Wheel kick". Which imo, is one of the most highest kinetic energy of all kicks. Spinning 360 degrees on the L-ball of my left foot. As I kicked empty beer cans from the top of parking meters, using my R-leg. Once I mastered that kick. I became more limber & very fast & powerful by the age of 18. Then I started kicking empty beer cans that were on my best friend's head. He was 6' even. I was so limber back then. I could stand in a doorway & kick the door frame header beam directly above my head. As I stood flat footed on my L-foot. The above pic, is what is called a "Side Snap Kick". I could also use that kick to the head of a 6' man. Being in my 70's now. I can still battle. But I'm not what I once was no doubt.
 
medic joe said:
Age 15, I practiced the so named "Spinning Wheel kick". Which imo, is one of the most highest kinetic energy of all kicks. Spinning 360 degrees on the L-ball of my left foot. As I kicked empty beer cans from the top of parking meters, using my R-leg. Once I mastered that kick. I became more limber & very fast & powerful by the age of 18. Then I started kicking empty beer cans that were on my best friend's head. He was 6' even. I was so limber back then. I could stand in a doorway & kick the door frame header beam directly above my head. As I stood flat footed on my L-foot. The above pic, is what is called a "Side Snap Kick". I could also use that kick to the head of a 6' man. Being in my 70's now. I can still battle. But I'm not what I once was no doubt.
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Nice. Yeah that spinning kick can be pretty brutal. Were you doing stretching to get more flexible or were you always like that?

 
Newpond0 said:
Nice. Yeah that spinning kick can be pretty brutal. Were you doing stretching to get more flexible or were you always like that?

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Yes I was naturally pretty limber. But I also did leg muscle stretches(Split stretches side to side & front to back split stretches). While I worked out on my parents driveway. I spent many hundreds of hrs working out alone. Fighting invisible foes.
 
I was a huge fan of Bill Superfoot Wallace. I actually got to meet Chuck Norris in the early 80's when he came to our Dojo. I was able to do a split back then, well I was able to do lots of things back then. LOL
 
Coyotejunki said:
I was a huge fan of Bill Superfoot Wallace. I actually got to meet Chuck Norris in the early 80's when he came to our Dojo. I was able to do a split back then, well I was able to do lots of things back then. LOL
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Both of those guys back then were great fighters. I seen film footage of them all fighting in matches. I styled my kicking forms from Brue Lee. Who imo was the best of all martial artists. Joe Lewis was another great fighter.
 
medic joe said:
Both of those guys back then were great fighters. I seen film footage of them all fighting in matches. I styled my kicking forms from Brue Lee. Who imo was the best of all martial artists. Joe Lewis was another great fighter.
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It’s kinda interesting what’s happened to the martial arts over the last 30 years or so. I remember as a kid I Bruce lee was considered as the toughest guy of all time amongst a lot of people. Guys like Jean Claude van damme, and Steven seagal were huge too.

In the early 1990s they started putting on style vs style kind of cage fights. At first the guy who could get you on the ground and armlock, choke, leg lock etc. the other guys was beating everyone. His system (Gracie Brazilian Jiu jitsu) became famous immediately. Then the Amateur wrestlers once they learned how to avoid those locks were dominating with their muscled size and ability to wrestle a guy down and beat him up or even just lay on top of him until time expired. The Asian martial artists competing in these fights were having a really tough time. Then you had a phase were guys knew a little of everything but would try to survive and tire a guy out after 10+ minutes of fighting so now cardio was the key. These cage fights kept evolving, and the traditional martial arts lost a lot of their credibility. I think a lot of the karate, kung fu, tai kwon do etc. gyms took a hard hit and now it’s the more the ground locks, wrestling, boxing, and kickboxing that’s taken their place among the newer generations. Very interesting
 
Here’s an example of the traditional martial arts vs a wrestler who can defend the locks and punch a bit too during those early days
 
Someone (spurchaser?) said in one of the newbie threads recently about sticking to what works and discarding what doesn’t and building your skills up that way. It immediately reminded me of the martial arts and how I’ve seen it do exactly that over the years. I agree with him 100%, the only thing is that in the martial arts still to this day the key is often starting with 1 specific style building a solid foundation in that style first. Then later that wrestler/striker/grappler etc. can start adding, subtracting, and making adjustments from there. A lot of the top fighters nowadays began with amateur wrestling as their base for example.

To apply that to predator hunting, I’m going to start building my base this year with learning about where coyotes live and bed, their territorial behavior, and how to get inside their territory undetected. Then I’ll add in the e caller after. Maybe another guy will focus on technology as their base (thermals, drones, computer scouting, and so on). Another guy might already have a solid foundation in big game hunting.

This first year I didn’t have a solid foundation in anything. I knew a little of this and that, but it didn’t amount to much of anything. Like a thin soup of random ingredients that didn’t fit or get the job done
 
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Someone (spurchaser?) said in one of the newbie threads recently about sticking to what works and discarding what doesn’t and building your skills up that way. It immediately reminded me of the martial arts and how I’ve seen it do exactly that over the years. I agree with him 100%, the only thing is that in the martial arts still to this day the key is often starting with 1 specific style building a solid foundation in that style first. Then later that wrestler/striker/grappler etc. can start adding, subtracting, and making adjustments from there. A lot of the top fighters nowadays began with amateur wrestling as their base for example.

To apply that to predator hunting, I’m going to start building my base this year with learning about where coyotes live and bed, their territorial behavior, and how to get inside their territory undetected. Then I’ll add in the e caller after. Maybe another guy will focus on technology as their base (thermals, drones, computer scouting, and so on). Another guy might already have a solid foundation in big game hunting.

This first year I didn’t have a solid foundation in anything. I knew a little of this and that, but it didn’t amount to much of anything. Like a thin soup of random ingredients that didn’t fit or get the job done
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I agree with all you have posted so far. Whether learning a fighting/defensive skill set or hunting a specific animal/coyote. 1st it is best to stick to one form, learn it well. Then progress in knowledge & other skill sets. But whether talking about fighting skills or hunting. It is ideal to learn from an experienced hunter or fighter. As for fighting/defensive skills. My older bro's taught me the basics in fist fighting in my youth. They were both tough young men. Who had fought many foes. So I did have a good foundation to progress from. One of my older bros also took karate lessons. So between him & Bruce Lee. I imitated them both. Then progressed with my own style of "street fighting/kick boxing". By age 18. Even though I weighed 185. I was a hand full for most men. I could also take an extremely hard blow(s) & keep on fighting. The guys I did street fight. They were all tough & withstood the best I gave them. I was & still am even at my age. A hard hitter. However, as for my kicking height. I've lost some of my flexibility. Regardless of all of that & my old age. I don't take any BS from anyone. Bad mouth me if you will at a distance or use a pussy a** keyboard. Doesn't mean jack sh*t to me. Doing it, to my face is another matter.
 
“reminds me of Fonzi talking to Richie Cunningham.”

Haha! You probably just confused anyone under 50 with that comment! Lol… 🤣
 
Spurchaser said:
If you have a reputation, then you won’t have to worry about anyone saying or doing anything…just saying.
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I'm not interested in having a reputation. That mindset means zero to me. I don't worry about ANY man or foe. I've been confronted by aggressive men. Some of whom those situations. Were while I was out hunting. We exchanged verbal pleasantries from our vehicles. I was armed during those times. And had I seen a firearm muzzle pointed at me. I would've instantly filled them with holes. That is a fact. Have I ever killed a man? No I haven't. But I have zero problem doing so. Badazz men should pass me on by. Because I do not yield.
 
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medic joe said:
I'm not interested in having a reputation. That mindset means zero to me. I don't worry about ANY man or foe. I've been confronted by aggressive men. Some of whom those situations. Were while I was out hunting. We exchanged verbal pleasantries from our vehicles. I was armed during those times. And had I seen a firearm muzzle pointed at me. I would've instantly filled them with holes. That is a fact. Have I ever killed a man? No I haven't. But I have zero problem doing so. Badazz men should pass me on by. Because I do not yield.
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Reputation means you don’t have those issues. Smart men don’t put themselves in situations where you have to play the Alpha position.
If an encounter does arise and it comes to a confrontation, end it where no one else wants a part of it. That’s a reputation. Trust me, all it takes is one good instance and you’ll be avoided. Having to state how “bad” you are or were is nothing short of a lack of confidence and self doubt…and lack of attention by feeling a need to be validated.
 
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