1x4 scope..thought's ??

Dave Allen

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hello, i picked up a 22-250 handi this weekend & think i want a 1x4 leupold shot gun scope...most shot's at coyotes average around 50 yards..i have to use high rings for the scope to clear the hammer i think that will help with the low magnification...i still expect to see the 22" barrel on 1 power.. will i still be looking at it on 2 power ?? by my guestimates..i should have around a 56 ft f.o.v on 2 power & that's where i want to be...i hate to blow $180 & be looking down my barrel unless i'm on 3 power then i would just get another 2x7...by the way i'm to chicken to use a shotgun !! this is a short easy to handle... little gun & is for short range only !! i know there are low power boys lurking out there !!
 
I'm a big believer in low end variables for fast sight acquisition and the Leupold would be dandy for what you have in mind. I wouldn't concern myself with seeing the barrel. I've used mine on .22LR squirrel rifles with great results! Keep your focus on the coyote and just completely forget about everything else! That's what I did with squirrels and it worked perfectly.
There IS one major advantage of a 2x-7x that hardly ever gets mentioned. The OPTIMUM magnification (much better than 4x) for low light shooting is at 6x or 7x (depending on the individual scope. If you're doing alot of shooting in low-light situations, this may a consideration.--- Mike
 
Hi Dave! The best thing about that scope will be the heavy crosshairs. A 1 x 4 heavy crosshair scope will be fine for shootin' 'em pretty far out there. I say go for it.

I you are aiming at a little target dot on a bench the difference between 3 and 9 power seems extreme. Can't shoot a good group at 3x. But..............

Here is something odd about a low power scope. At 9 power I can shoot a coyote silouette at a hundred yards off sticks and get a nice cluster in the kill yone. I can crank that baby down to 3 power and shoot about a half inch bigger on a coyote silouette. Does not make any sense, but try it yourself, and you will be amazed.

Try that test guys, you will be surprised.
 
Weaver makes a V-3 (1x to 3x). I use it on most of my calling rifles now, just bought another one on e-bay. They have fully multi-coated lenses and seem very reliable. $139 postage paid ebinocular.com

AWS
 
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thanks for the advice everyone...sledd i think your right while more magnification is prefered for B.R. shooting. it probably doesn't make much difference at a larger target when you get right down to it...i will try your test sometime soon !! you had a thread on that a bit ago & made perfect sense....wrong target thanks for your input...you are the man on handi's !! it's good to know that scope works on your 30-30...i have a 3x9 on the gun now & will make the switchover after developing a load...lots to talk about i will mention i worked up a few handloads last night & shot four three shot groups today one group 3" three groups about 1 1/4 i need to test more of course..."but" i think this will work out...thank's again...
 
My thoughts, why hamper the long range capability of the 22-250 with a 1x4 no matter who makes it. In the 30-30 it makes sense but not for the 22-250. At least look at a 2x7x32 compact scope so you can stretch it out if you need to. You should be able to shoot close at any power with a 2x7 also. The shotgun scopes also have a 75 yard or so parallax setting. I think the 4x fixed is a good choice as well. I shoot pretty good groups with 4x on several of my rifles. Less to think about when punching paper too.
 
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Weaver makes a V-3 (1x to 3x). I use it on most of my calling rifles now, just bought another one on e-bay. They have fully multi-coated lenses and seem very reliable. $139 postage paid ebinocular.com

AWS



I'm a big fan of the Weaver V3, I picked up another one at the last gun show for $50. Was the best deal in the show IMHO
 
dogtired...thank's for your input trust me i have considered everything you mentioned..i also stated when i started the thread this gun is for short RANGE !!! i understand it is difficult to comprehend why someone would use a long range weapon for close range work ?? i'm not calling you out..far from it.."BUT" have you looked a called coyote in the eye ?? i have & maybe you to ?? i have missed more coyotes than i care to mention because i couldn't handle them up close...the reason for the 250 is i already have a 223 for coyotes & as i said before i'm to ckicken to use a shotgun !!! plus we all need more coyote combo's !!!
 
Since you don't want much if any magnification, have you ever considered a large diameter 40-45mm Red Dot system?

It'd be a lot shorter than other scopes, making the hammer issue disappear, and you'd have very fast target acquisition. I think I've seen one in Cabela's lately for less than $100 that even has 2x magnification, if you'd want to go that high.
 
Dave..........You are on the right track, and will easily be set up for 99% of all calling situations. If you can get a 1 x 4 with some heavy crosshairs that don't get lost in the brush and foliage all the better. To have parallax set at 50 or 75 yards is acutally a bonus, as most your shooting of called coyote will occur at theses ranges.

You may see a fuzzy shadow of your barrel below 2.5 magnification, but is not distracting, and clean shots are easily made.

Dont get hung up on big power, as I did a survey in the spring here, and the average shot on a coyote with every respondant averaged out to 75 yards. Even open country fellas shot alot of coyotes close.

Very few shot over 150 yards which is an easy shot with a 4x scope.
 


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